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hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are parliamentary journalist tony grew and the journalist and broadcaster caroline frost. tomorrow's front pages... platinum jubilee celebrations in all of the papers. maj—ical is the headline in the metro, with a picture
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showing the queen's appearance on the buckingham palace balcony. the queen front and centre of the daily telegraph, as the paper reports on her statement to the public — saying the monarch has reaffirmed her commitment to serve the nation. the times says the members of the royal family chosen to appear on the balcony are a message about the future of the monarchy. it was a slimmed—down royal family, according to the i. but the paper also looks at boris johnson's future, saying a vote on his leadership could come this week. the guardian claims allies of the pm are preparing for a confidence vote, and says borisjohnson will launch a policy fightback focusing on health and housing. that story continued in the financial times, showing the prime minister and labour leader, keir starmer, watching the platinumjubilee pageant. but the paper leads with reports of a 90% drop in the value
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of public listings in the us and europe since the war in ukraine started. 0k, let us begin our chat. tony and caroline, lovely to see you both. we're going to start off with the metro. caroline, if you could kick that off. majical is that headline. yes. a -icture majical is that headline. yes. a picture telling _ majical is that headline. yes. a picture telling 1000 _ majical is that headline. yes. a picture telling 1000 words, - picture telling 1000 words, encapsulating the mood of the day. a nice play onwards, majical — see what they did? i think the queen was the star of the show over the last four days, and we have the great element of the queen last night. because she's becoming increasingly elusive, there is a certain... when she does appear, i think that was
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very clear this afternoon when very much unexpectedly, the joyous wave and the farewell and the letter published, everybody across the nation. the queen as usual. tony, ou're nation. the queen as usual. tony, you're going _ nation. the queen as usual. tony, you're going to _ nation. the queen as usual. tony, you're going to take _ nation. the queen as usual. tony, you're going to take us _ nation. the queen as usual. tony, you're going to take us to - nation. the queen as usual. tony, you're going to take us to the - nation. the queen as usual. tony, | you're going to take us to the daily telegraph. same picture. it's been a really good four days. i think_ it's been a really good four days. i think everyone has enjoyed the time off and _ think everyone has enjoyed the time off and all_ think everyone has enjoyed the time off and all the sorts of various jubilee — off and all the sorts of various jubilee celebrations of and down the country _ jubilee celebrations of and down the country i_ jubilee celebrations of and down the country. i think one thing i've reflected _ country. i think one thing i've reflected on over this period is the way in _ reflected on over this period is the way in which things will change whenever the next king succeeds. i think— whenever the next king succeeds. i think we've — whenever the next king succeeds. i think we've seen that in the front page _ think we've seen that in the front page of— think we've seen that in the front page of the times, which shows what's _ page of the times, which shows what's referred to as the slimmed—down royal family, but i was also watching some stuff on the bbc about _ also watching some stuff on the bbc about the _ also watching some stuff on the bbc about the coronation and was reflecting about how it will look.
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so, reflecting about how it will look. 50. it's — reflecting about how it will look. so, it's been a time of reflection, but i _ so, it's been a time of reflection, but i think— so, it's been a time of reflection, but i think as far as i can see, everyone's_ but i think as far as i can see, everyone's having a great time. yeah, _ everyone's having a great time. yeah, wbat _ everyone's having a great time. yeah, what did you make of that slimmed—down view from the balcony, the slimmed—down royal family, caroline? i5 the slimmed-down royal family, caroline? , ., the slimmed-down royal family, caroline? , , , . ~ ., caroline? is no surprise. we know this is the — caroline? is no surprise. we know this is the message _ caroline? is no surprise. we know this is the message the _ caroline? is no surprise. we know this is the message the queen - caroline? is no surprise. we know| this is the message the queen has carved out for some time, the idea and one of the many criticisms that the royal family have received and one of the many criticisms that the royalfamily have received is this level of padding. lots of them seems to have income —— seem to have incomes, through very various businesses. we know they live in castles, and i think one of the messages going forward has been to swim it right down so it is this core team which is seen as loan succession. the idea is if this linear line, ratherthan
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succession. the idea is if this linear line, rather than this crowded balcony that we've seen before. exactly who are they and what did they all do. it may have gone too much the other way. but this is what they're going as the year ahead of us beckons. share this is what they're going as the year ahead of us beckons. are we 'ust auoin year ahead of us beckons. are we just going to _ year ahead of us beckons. are we just going to bring _ year ahead of us beckons. are we just going to bring that _ year ahead of us beckons. are we just going to bring that up - year ahead of us beckons. are we just going to bring that up for - year ahead of us beckons. are we just going to bring that up for the j just going to bring that up for the viewers, that is the image. it's not what we're used to. in terms of the slimmed—down monarchy, what do you think... do you think there'll be as in touch with the public? is a lot of work to do there. , , ., ., do there. one thing is you need to be careful what _ do there. one thing is you need to be careful what you _ do there. one thing is you need to be careful what you wish - do there. one thing is you need to be careful what you wish for. - do there. one thing is you need to be careful what you wish for. the | be careful what you wish for. the presence — be careful what you wish for. the presence of the monarchy and the united _ presence of the monarchy and the united kingdom is boosted by the fact that — united kingdom is boosted by the fact that there are quite a lot of them, — fact that there are quite a lot of them, frankly, to go around and look at things and make public appearances on behalf of the queen.
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if you think about this, with prince harry hot— if you think about this, with prince harry not returning to royal duties, we're _ harry not returning to royal duties, we're actually, apart from the cambridge is in the prince of wales, not a _ cambridge is in the prince of wales, not a huge _ cambridge is in the prince of wales, not a huge amount of publicly facing royat _ not a huge amount of publicly facing royat that _ not a huge amount of publicly facing royal. that will also be a change if the royal family decide that it wants— the royal family decide that it wants to _ the royal family decide that it wants to slimmed—down and focus on five or— wants to slimmed—down and focus on five or six— wants to slimmed—down and focus on five or six members. that will mean fewer— five or six members. that will mean fewer royal— five or six members. that will mean fewer royal event held. one thing particularly the princess royal, who does a _ particularly the princess royal, who does a lot— particularly the princess royal, who does a lot of unsung work, but carries— does a lot of unsung work, but carries out— does a lot of unsung work, but carries out hundreds and hundreds of meetings _ carries out hundreds and hundreds of meetings every year. let�*s carries out hundreds and hundreds of meetings every year.— meetings every year. let's turn to the guardian. _ meetings every year. let's turn to the guardian. this _ meetings every year. let's turn to the guardian. this is _ meetings every year. let's turn to the guardian. this is our- meetings every year. let's turn to the guardian. this is our final - meetings every year. let's turn to | the guardian. this is our final look the guardian. this is ourfinal look at thejubilee celebrations. humbled queen brings the four day party to an end. caroline, what value do you think the royal family does bring to the uk? because there is this debate that's been going on about the future of the royal family
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and many people are saying they don't know what they bring to their life. i don't know what they bring to their life. ~' �* , . don't know what they bring to their life. ~ 2 . , ., life. i think it's a very fair question _ life. i think it's a very fair question we _ life. i think it's a very fair question we see - life. i think it's a very fair question we see them i life. i think it's a very fair- question we see them systemically life. i think it's a very fair— question we see them systemically at the pinnacle of the pyramid of privilege. however, iguess the pinnacle of the pyramid of privilege. however, i guess the question is what do they stop happening? in theory, the queen is the great and my instrument —— the great instrument. we know the government can't be formed unless the prime minister goes and sees her. there are all these protocols in place that seemingly, as you say, timeless in fashion and perhaps until you jesse that it's these —— just to see. i've debated this long and hard. ithink just to see. i've debated this long and hard. i think they also bring a sense of pageantry, people coming to this country because of these figureheads. they love all the colours and it looks mauritanian on
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the blaze. —— on the page. but i do believe there is a value in it and i guess we would have to... we don't get to experiment without it. guess we would have to. .. we don't get to experiment without it.- get to experiment without it. tony, take us away _ get to experiment without it. tony, take us away from _ get to experiment without it. tony, take us away from the _ get to experiment without it. tony, take us away from the uk. - get to experiment without it. tony, take us away from the uk. we've . get to experiment without it. tony, take us away from the uk. we've seen over the last few days the interest thatis over the last few days the interest that is beyond the uk borders. france love the royal family. you wouldn't think so, but they do. the us also have an interest. but i'd like to know your thoughts on... i don't know what you've picked up on the value that the queen and the royal family brings to the commonwealth.- royal family brings to the commonwealth. ~ ., , ., , commonwealth. well, one question is how. . . commonwealth. well, one question is how... it's commonwealth. well, one question is how- -- it's pretty _ commonwealth. well, one question is how... it's pretty clear _ commonwealth. well, one question is how... it's pretty clear that _ commonwealth. well, one question is how... it's pretty clear that once - how... it's pretty clear that once the queen— how... it's pretty clear that once the queen dies, several countries, mostly— the queen dies, several countries, mostly australia, will vote to become _ mostly australia, will vote to become an a republic. the alternative is an elected president.
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it's alternative is an elected president. it's one _ alternative is an elected president. it's one of— alternative is an elected president. it's one of the duties of the british— it's one of the duties of the british constitutional system. so, the queen— british constitutional system. so, the queen is very much a figurehead. she only— the queen is very much a figurehead. she only asked on the advice of her prime _ she only asked on the advice of her prime minister. borisjohnson is her for steep prime minister. her first was winston churchill. i'll leave the audience to compare those two. staying _ the audience to compare those two. staying with the guardian. borisjohnson also boris johnson also features on borisjohnson also features on the front page. so much talk about the possibility of a vote of confidence in the prime minister this week.— minister this week. absolutely. the only person — minister this week. absolutely. the only person we _ minister this week. absolutely. the only person we know— minister this week. absolutely. the only person we know whether... . minister this week. absolutely. the only person we know whether... 's| minister this week. absolutely. the l only person we know whether... '5 or only person we know whether... 's or graham _ only person we know whether... 's or graham brady. —— sir. the question here _ graham brady. —— sir. the question here is— graham brady. —— sir. the question here is this — graham brady. —— sir. the question here is this coming week the best time _ here is this coming week the best time to— here is this coming week the best time to trigger that process, given that if— time to trigger that process, given that if the — time to trigger that process, given that if the prime minister has a vote _ that if the prime minister has a vote of— that if the prime minister has a vote of no—confidence and he wins,
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he can't _ vote of no—confidence and he wins, he can't be — vote of no—confidence and he wins, he can't be charged for another year~ _ he can't be charged for another year~ i— he can't be charged for another year. i suspect there are some mps who do think it's time for the prime minister— who do think it's time for the prime minister to— who do think it's time for the prime ministerto go, who do think it's time for the prime minister to go, but i'm who do think it's time for the prime ministerto go, but i'm not who do think it's time for the prime minister to go, but i'm not sure whether— minister to go, but i'm not sure whether this week is the best for it. whether this week is the best for it we _ whether this week is the best for it. we have two by—elections. it's by no _ it. we have two by—elections. it's by no means— it. we have two by—elections. it's by no means a certain thing, but for any prime _ by no means a certain thing, but for any prime minister to find himself in a position —— and themselves in a position— in a position —— and themselves in a position like — in a position —— and themselves in a position like this, bad news. financial— position like this, bad news. financial times, position like this, bad news. financialtimes, same position like this, bad news. financial times, same story. the rebels are closing in on mrjohnson. yes, apparently, there were cheers as well as doing on friday. —— as well as boos. borisjohnson seems to be the reverse. he didn't seem to hear the boos. if he did, he was closing his ears to them. the idea, i guess we have theresa may, she won
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her vote of confidence when it was raised, but severely, chastised and weekend as a leader. even if boris johnson loses, if he wins by one vote, he's not for going, so i'm not quite sure what happens. i'm not sure we've had a precedent for such just a sort of bombastic... somebody clings onto power. we saw this with donald trump. i never expected to see anything similar in this country. the fact that he won't go unless dragged out by his fingernails clinging to the desk seems unseemly, yet it may be what comes to pass. the seems unseemly, yet it may be what comes to pass-— comes to pass. the yorkshire post, travel disruption _ comes to pass. the yorkshire post, travel disruption again _ comes to pass. the yorkshire post, travel disruption again this - travel disruption again this weekend. the army, a solution, but no, says grant shapps. grant shapps knows as well as anyone else that _ grant shapps knows as well as anyone else that the army is a low level not seen — else that the army is a low level not seen since the napoleonic wars.
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it's not seen since the napoleonic wars. it's easy— not seen since the napoleonic wars. it's easy to _ not seen since the napoleonic wars. it's easy to say send in the army, but we _ it's easy to say send in the army, but we have _ it's easy to say send in the army, but we have a systemic problem with staffing _ but we have a systemic problem with staffing. trade unions have been warning — staffing. trade unions have been warning about this. this isn't a surprise — warning about this. this isn't a surprise to— warning about this. this isn't a surprise to anyone paying attention. we have _ surprise to anyone paying attention. we have very many vacancies in the uk. we have very many vacancies in the uk we _ we have very many vacancies in the uk. we ended movement from the european _ uk. we ended movement from the european union, so all these issues have come — european union, so all these issues have come together and lead to unhappy— have come together and lead to unhappy tourists.— have come together and lead to l unhappy tourists._ yes, unhappy tourists. caroline? yes, some of the _ unhappy tourists. caroline? yes, some of the answers _ unhappy tourists. caroline? yes, some of the answers include - unhappy tourists. caroline? yes, - some of the answers include making it easierfor passengers some of the answers include making it easier for passengers to get compensation. that doesn't seem like a systemic overall comprehensive solution to a problem that everybody else all coming months away, and yet seem to have crossed the secretary by surprise. his answer was not what he was going to do to fix it, but the fact that we aren't the only country in europe to experience this. we are one of the countries that need to, if you want to go on
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holiday, we have to fly. we'll see what happens. i'm sure that's not a comfort to anybody who's family holiday plans are ruined in the meantime. holiday plans are ruined in the meantime-— holiday plans are ruined in the meantime. ~ �* ., , meantime. we've got the summer holida s meantime. we've got the summer holidays coming — meantime. we've got the summer holidays coming up. _ meantime. we've got the summer holidays coming up. you're - meantime. we've got the summer i holidays coming up. you're nodding, tony blue i was merely— holidays coming up. you're nodding, tony blue i was merely agreeing with the wisdom of— tony blue i was merely agreeing with the wisdom of caroline. _ tony blue i was merely agreeing with l the wisdom of caroline. compensation is a huge _ the wisdom of caroline. compensation is a huge issue. yeah, it's going to be a _ is a huge issue. yeah, it's going to be a chaotic— is a huge issue. yeah, it's going to be a chaotic summer, but these are problems— be a chaotic summer, but these are problems you can solve in a day or two _ problems you can solve in a day or two so— problems you can solve in a day or two so we — problems you can solve in a day or two. so we will continue to have these _ two. so we will continue to have these issues, and i find it interesting that the daily express was complaining about the fact that eu passports were given preferential treatment. that being eu citizens. i think— treatment. that being eu citizens. i think there's a little bit of a reality— think there's a little bit of a reality check that some people have to get _ reality check that some people have to get their heads around when it comes— to get their heads around when it comes to — to get their heads around when it comes to travelling in europe. we are from — comes to travelling in europe. we are from a — comes to travelling in europe. we are from a third country. that is
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comfortable for you to —— consequences, but are domestic problems— consequences, but are domestic problems require solving. it doesn't seem _ problems require solving. it doesn't seem the _ problems require solving. it doesn't seem the transport secretary has come _ seem the transport secretary has come up — seem the transport secretary has come up with any eye—catching plans. we'll leave _ come up with any eye—catching plans. we'll leave it there for now. tony and caroline will be back at 11.30 for another look at the papers. click is next. goodbye for now. for now, click is going to be with you.
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