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everybody, could see you. i miasma suu kyi. and welcome to a very busy afternoon. relief is here, the first flight carrying baby formula from overseas arriving in the united states but is it enough for dust from parents across the country right now? new defiance also from ukraine officials declaring no cease-fire and no handing over of linda russia. just hours away from the start of a new trading week in a general -- wall street economic leaders gathering right to take you there as well. and then the former president endorsing congressman barry loudermilk just a set of the january six committee asked to speak to him. later on this hour. fueling hate we're going to take a look at tucker carlson's toxic contribution to the races great replacement theory that helped inspire the buffaloes
shooter. that's coming up as well. we want to begin the without breaking news on the infant formula shortage. the issue so severe that new york city mayor eric adams says now declared a state of emergency. adams assigned and executive order that allows the city's consumer protection agency to go after price gouging related to the shortage. but some relief it may be up -- pallets of new baby formula around the united states. the first landed a short time ago in indianapolis. that military transport loaded with enough formula to feed 9000 babies in 18,000 toddlers for a week. just a week. the shipping was these first successful mission operation fly formula and more is on the way. the importance suspected to fill immediate gaps in this u.s. stockpile. while also by the way buying time for domestic manufacturers to ramp up their production. joining me now is nbc's meghan official who's in indianapolis and stephanie stanton in tampa florida. megan let, me just with you on this one. we're talking about the numbers feeding babies toddlers for
just over a week. that's obviously not a lot of time. bridging the gap though of people to ramp up production. some of those facilities on the country. nonetheless, it could not come at a more crucial time for these families in need. talk us through it. >> yeah, you're absolutely right. and he has been, it's important to make the section here. we're talking about 78,000 pounds of this hypoallergenic formula. the administration has prioritized that because these babies can't tolerate the regular formula. and according to doctors, those there's no circus there. the kentucky that formula, they can't cut corners. it is fda approved right now it's on its way to the nestle's facility which is just on the street here. but nestle has their own quality control testing that they've done on some of the shipment. those results are expecting the coming days. once that's back, that portion of the shipment will be shipped out to hospitals into health care facilities because keep in mind, this is a prescription based formula. the rest of the formula that
arrive today, those results expected in the coming weeks. and then of course we'll see that being shipped off. the administration saying look we're doing everything we can to try and get this formula out as quickly as possible to these parents. we did hear earlier today from secretary back culture tumble sack. take a listen to what he had to say. >> as a result of the united states military's involvement, we're going to get this here in a matter of days. and a matter of days means a lot of the moms and dads were worried. this is an important step but it is by no means the only step that must take place. we will continue to work, as the president has instructed us, to look for every opportunity to increase supply. >> and secretary vilsack tells us that in the coming days, we are expecting to see more aircrafts coming into the united states from europe. specifically carrying kerber formula that of course is the formula that is accessible to the rest of the infants and
toddlers who needed. who aren't allergic to the regular formula. and that's the formula that will be on the shelves inside stores yasmin. >> stephanie, talk us through the realign implications of all of this. obviously help on the way as we're hearing from megan with these calls arriving from europe. but having to bridge that gap, first and foremost, and how are parents feeling about how they're kind of ramping up not only production but shipments from europe here in the united states to get the formula and hands? >> yasmin, as you might imagine, parents are very concerned because we talked about the amount of formula. it's great that's happening. but that will feed just 9000 babies in $18,000 for one week. there were over 3 million babies born in this country back in 2019. those are the latest statistics that we found. so there are millions of babies in this country that were lion formula. at this point, it is still unclear how much of that particular delivery or formula will make its way here to florida. i'm standing here outside johns
hopkins all children hospital in saint petersburg. officials here, doctors closely monitoring the situation. so far they tell us the good news they haven't admitted any babies from elmer's mint. but it's something that they are possibly expecting and keeping a very close eye on. because as we now know, this shortage expected to continue for weeks. >> they just tell my families not to tell -- just be calm and get the supply you need but don't over by. lee take we need and leave what you don't for another family. definitely no diluting formula and no making your own formula at home. that's just not safe for your baby. >> now the good news for here in florida, this is one of the states that is not hardest hit right now by the shortages. those states including texas, kansas tennessee nevada among others. so at this point, again, it is sort of a watch and wait scenario. >> yeah, let's just hope the babies, the moms, the dads, the parents to get the relief that
they need. both physically and emotionally because we all know this is a lot of emotional turmoil as well. in dealing with all of this. megan fitzgerald, thank you, stephanie, thank you as well. all right, let's talk to the president. now in japan, after wrapping up a three-day visit to south korea, all a part of his first presidential trip to the region. biden addressing, stretching out should say both economic insecurity partnerships and south korea. meeting with u.s. troops in a u.s. airbase south of seoul and appearing with hyundai ceo earlier today. who unveiled a 5.5 billion dollar tech investment in the united states. mike memoli is following the president in tokyo joining us now. mentally, as always, good to see you. talk to us more about the president of south korea versus first and foremost and what else we can expect in japan? >> yeah, yasmin, good to be with. you were continuing to really see president biden on the strip. working on two tracks. two parallel tracks. on the one hand, and one of the major security challenges in
the region. we saw that yesterday first and foremost north korea. the president with the south korean president visiting some of those service members at the airbase there where they were expected to be working on plans to expand the joint military exercises of the sue countries aimed at deterring the north korea nuclear threat. the president telling reporters that he wasn't concerned about the possibility which his advisers have said it's a very real possibility that north korea could launch a missile tests showing his visit here to the region. and he said he had a simple message to the north korean dictator simply, hello. an interesting moment. but then of course, a focus on the economy. such an important challenge for the president politically. he's really been trying to draw a linkage between some of the economic international alliances as well some of the policies that he's enacted home and you saw that when he was a side by side with the chairman of hyundai. obviously a major korean automaker. strangling putting some of the proposals included in the bipartisan infrastructure law, including expanding electoral vehicle charging stations.
with how decision to build a new plant for electric vehicles in the city georgia. he's a president laying out what he said it was a trend in terms of his administration, take a listen. >> this investment is a part of a trend. my administration and my administration. manufacturing jobs are coming back to america. even before these investments, my administration is coming created 545,000 new manufacturing jobs since we took office. thanks to hyundai, we are being part of this transformative automobile sector and accelerating us on the road where we're gonna be handing to a united states all electric future. and that's where we're shooting. for >> now, he has been, the focus on the economy will really continue on monday here. it is monday in tokyo as the president's schedule also picks up a painful bit. he's going to be meeting first this morning with the emperor of japan before he has a meeting with japan's prime
minister. and there's gotta be announcing with the administrations calling the indo-pacific economic framework. this is really sort of an arrangement of like-minded countries in the region. and that sort of counterbalance in china's influence of course. and trying to set rules of the road as administration official put it on things like trade, also improving coordination on things like supply chains. obviously, that's been a major headache for this administration. it's been a big driver of course of inflation as well. so the president trying to showcase how working with our allies abroad can really provide for the american people at home as well, >> we appreciate you, i'm seeing that for -- coming to us live from tokyo and also my friend get yourself some lemon in honey. i've heard that voice myself before. and i know how those hours -- >> my number one finn already made a recommendation. >> you're ana, you're on it, i know you are. thanks to mike good to see you. two days before the all-important primary. twice impeached from president
on trump has thrown his support behind shooting congressman barry loudermilk's reelection bid. the endorsement coming just days after it was revealed that the january six committee wants to talk to loudermilk about his role leading up to the capitol insurrection. nbc's julie circus following this for us also legal analyst joyce vance is tracking the story as well. julie, let me start with you on this one. kind of give us the abc's up today on what we know with loudermilk versus loudermilk -- the first with the select committee. >> just two days ago, the committee athleisure milk voluntarily, they did not subpoena him, if he can provide more information, if you can sit on the committee. this coming week. any day, they said, that suits him to provide information on a tour he led on january 5th 2021. that was the day before the capitol insurrection. and back then, as you remember, yasmin, it was the height of the pandemic. this building was closed, we weren't seeing many people walk through the hallways and that's why when one democratic congresswoman cheryl of new
jersey saw a congressman, barry loudermilk, and some others, according to her. giving these tourists. she was a little bit suspicious after the january 6th attack happened. now the committee think they have evidence that they've collected showing that loudermilk may have been giving some sort of suspicious tour for his part though he responded to the panel saying that he gave the tour to a constituent family with young children. he said quote, it is not a suspicious group. and the family never entered the capital building. he accused the committee of quote, pushing a verifiably false narratives that republicans led these tours and as the police by the way to release videos, surveillance video of the tour he gave on that day. now, we don't know whether he will show up this week or not. but the president, former president trump's timing has endorsement of loudermilk's reelection bid. doesn't inspire much confidence that a lot of mcclendon go ahead and cooperate and talk to the committee. of course we know also in a couple of weeks, they're going
to turn the private investigation and on full public display. they're going to hold those long-awaited hearings and so we're bracing for what will be revealed then. yes. one >> choice, can you pick up on where julie left off. which is how likely is it that loudermilk will in fact give testimony? and my follow-up to that is, do you suspect the january six committee knows more about that tour then loudermilk is actually letting on and giving that explanation that he was only give this tour to a field? >> second part of the question, first, i think the committee's view is diametrically opposed from the congressman's. it seems unlikely that they'd be pushing ahead if they didn't have some sort of evidence. because he was very specific. it was a family, they never entered the capital. now we'll see with the committee has, this feels a little bit like a tease, as we head into those june hearings. from loudermilk's point of view,
if you've got a story to tell, if you truly believe that the committee has got a wrong and has made a mistake, then you have every incentive to testify in front of the committee. for one thing, it saves you from facing a subpoena. as we get closer to june that certainly a position he doesn't want to be in. but you know, i think it'll be very telling if he doesn't show up, if he doesn't come forward with the mistake the committee has made in making his allegations. then it will look as though the congressman has something to hide. >> let's talk to any thomas here for a moment while i have you. first it was the text messages to mark meadows in the lead up to january 6th insurrection. johnny thomas was urging mark meadows essentially to try and help overturn the results. of the election. of the 2020 election. and now we are hearing about these emails sent to arizona lawmakers to reverse essentially the certification of the election that state.
what do you make of any thomas's involvement in all of this? do you think now maybe the time nostradamus committee should call her into testify? >> so there are two separate issues here. one is whether her husband, the supreme court justice, he's to recuse from any matters that come before his court that touch on these issues where she's involved. and the answer to that is absolutely yes. no exceptions to that whatsoever. if you will do it voluntarily. then the chief justice needs to have a long heart to heart with him to make sure it doesn't happen. the damage to the supreme court's credibility is reaching the point where it's tough to imagine how it's going to be reversed. the separate issue that you asked about is whether she should be subpoenaed and i bring to this my spirits as a prosecutor. and from my point of view, if there is a witness who looks like they had factual information about something you're investigating, then you want to have a talk with them. no different for the january
6th committee than it would be for prosecutors. she's almost like the forrest gump of january six. ginni thomas seems to show up in a lot of different places. i would want to have a talk with her about what she knows and what information she seen. and look, there are always sensitivities. we live in a real world around talking to someone like the wife the supreme court justice. but she shouldn't be treated preferentially here. a couple of people need to sit down and have a conversation with her. or invite her to come speak with the committee. if you were francis running a criminal investigation into january six, you might want to have a conversation with her in that regard as well. just because there's such an amazing coincidence and she is now out promoting this fake slate of electors approach that we know that also johnny sermon was pushing inside of the trump camp. it is just really remarkable the two of them would independently come up with this same very off brand scheme. so one might legitimately inquire into what interactions she had with her husband's
former law clerk. and whether or not this was something they were working on together. >> here's the thing to bring up justice thomas to recuse himself, likelihood though it seems of him actually doing that is very low. you talk about this heart to heart having with chief justice roberts and justice tom events. he -- has accused chief justice roberts and has called out chief justice roberts in the lead of roe v. wade decision, so, i wonder if that heart to heart were to happen would come out of it, if there is a respect that's lost between the judges within the supreme court amidst the leak of that decision. >> so, this slow bleed of the courts credibility has got to stop somewhere if the institutions gonna make an effort to restore its credibility with the public. there's a bright line in the sand here, with justice thomas
who should no longer sit on cases and he has sat on a few in the past, we seem to implicate his wife's work. the standard for judges the same as it is from lawyers, he shouldn't do anything that is actually inappropriate and you shouldn't do anything that gives the appearance of impropriety. that means something that would compromise the integrity of the institution in the eyes of the public. so, i think you're right on the one hand that to date justin thomas and others have shown no indication to enforce internal ethics rules on the court, but we're at a point that so significant that one has to imagine that there is conversations going on. i think we'll see some changes in the future. >> joyce, julie, i appreciate it guys. still ahead everyone no cease-fire not interview kane land to russia. the defiant vow from one of president elect bounces close advisors, two years after the murder of george floyd minneapolis police that sworn protests and reform. when my next guest calls this
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it's only been one week, but the psychological damage that this massacre has inflicted upon its survivors and the community at large is clear. -- found that three quarters of black adults are worried, they are someone they love will be attacked because of the color of their skin. with me now is msnbc clinical analyst times columnist charles blow. charles, thanks for joining us i, want to get your reaction first and foremost, to those numbers are just put out there? >> yes, i mean, people respond to crisis and terrorism in this way, where they feel a heightened sense of vulnerability. i think there is an ambient sense of threat that black people feel in the country always, it is pushed to the floor when things happen that negatively affected black people like this terrorist attack, this massacre in
buffalo. i think what we have to do is understand that there are multiple threats, operational in the minds of black people, one, is a threat from the state itself and the police killings. another is -- terroristic activity and the other is the threat of vigilante white nationalism which is the case here. we don't often recall, is the black lives matter sprang out of an active vigilante killing rather than state killing. it was the acquittal of george floyd on the hashtag black lives about -- george zimmerman, black lives matter. so, those three levels of our always operational for black people in this country and we need to deal with each one of them, though they are related, in a separate, deal with each one of them individually.
>> i want to play for you, some of the interview i did yesterday with india walton, she ran for mayor in buffalo, did not win, a buffalo activists as well she talks about historically how buffalo has remained a segregated city, and some of the issues they face going forward. >> not only is buffalo the six vote segregated city in the nation, the third poorest of its size, but we've had multiple government officials who have been blatantly racist, we had a county sheriff who's responsible for more than 30 deaths under his watch. -- a white supremacist rally, with a confederate flag hanging behind him. so, the fact that this person was from outside the area, doesn't mean that buffalo and western new york are as absolve from white supremacy and racism in our own cities. >> i think, since the shooting took place i've been lying
trying to get to the root of this question which is, so how do you change things? how do you change things in a city like buffalo specifically, that's so incredibly segregated that they're not even willing to put the police forces that they need into these black communities in order to thrive, to make them feel as if they matter to bridge that gap. especially when india walton paints a picture that she does, of buffalo right now. >> well, i, think the first thing we need to do is start by acknowledging that the mayor around white supremacist violence in the modern age is largely mythological and based on a historical white supremacist -- we still in this country think about white supremacist violence as emanating from the klan, emanating from the south. when you look at the places that have the highest percentage of segregation,
metropolitan areas, subsidies barely even show up on those lists. it is places like buffalo, minneapolis, it is places like new york city, chicago and once we understand that the topography of this white terrorism has shifted with the segregation of people from largely southern cities into northern and western cities that call themselves liberal, then we can actually start to deal with what that means. i don't think we can even talk about it until we acknowledge that. >> you address the possibility of change and lack thereof in this incredibly beautiful op-ed, charles, i want to read a a part of it for folks to hear what you have to say about that on the two year anniversary of the killing of george floyd. and you write this, i have learned not to expect much from america, it has a deep capacity
for change but a shallow desire for it. i have embraced the wise desire not to be betrayed by the two much open but as james baldwin put it, i worry about all the young people in all of this it, is their fate that's most valuable to damage, they are the ones that most believe the change was not only possible but eminent, only to have america retreat and retrench. there's not much hope and that piece, charles, and talk to me about your worry for the younger generation? >> yeah, in generally speaking i've written about this before, as a spiritual concept i think that hopes important it keeps people from falling in despair. as a political concept, it is not useful and in fact, hope is often aimed at black people because they lack power and they say well, maybe the powers a b that will change if things just lined up and we can help
well enough, which well enough and, you pray eyed enough. but when i say in the peace and well as that i have learned that it is very -- about power, who has it, who can exercise it, who had benefits and who, in harm's. we do need to shift our thinking about what really will transform america away from people's feelings, peoples individual transformations and focus specifically, almost exclusively on the issue of power and whether or not we're giving people access to power, what we're doing at the moment is pulling back and giving people less power and we see in the suppression efforts around the country that is where, it is most important. martin lurking once that, i know people quoting all the time, but he says relevant tory in the latter part of his life which was, the law may not be
able to make someone love me, but it can stop people from lynching. me it is the power of legislation, he doesn't care about how you feel about me. >> the power of legislation. and the power representation in creating that legislation to represent the people that matter in need that change. charles blow, as always, thank you and i talk to you about this for hours but we don't have the time. i hope you do come back as we continue this conversation and do not let it go away as we often have in this news cycle. thank you, charles. more than four times that's how much fox news tucker carlson has mentioned replacement theory on his show, so why does he play dumb about a topic that he clearly knows a lot about, whenever he's challenged. plus, after a two-year hiatus because of this pandemic but business leaders around the road are talking about right now as recession fears grow in the u.s. economy, we're live --
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breaking news and new york city here. according to the nypd, a man was shot and killed this morning after a gunman opened fire on a moving subway train. the queue train to be exact in downtown manhattan near the canal street stop. the victim was struck in the chest, oh before noon. riding the north on 20 train. police -- they are still searching for a suspect there. as soon as we get information and bring it to you. we are also awaiting a news conference pending with additional details as well. we will bring any information again as we get it here in new york city. moving on, to russia. in an end to russia's invasion of ukraine. it can only come through diplomacy. that is occurring to ukraine's president, volodymyr zelenskyy. but the same time, a top advisor for zelenskyy also ruling out both a cease-fire or any deal that could see territory to russia. this is all coming as fighting
intensifies in the eastern parts of the country. russia targeting the donbas region overnight with airstrikes and artillery as well. nbc's jake gray is earning us -- capital city of kyiv. talk to us some of the stuff, jay, as i just mentioned there. some of the words from presidency they're saying okay we will not cede any territory here, there will not be a cease-fire. but the only way they can come to any sort of resolution here is through diplomacy. he also mentions the emotional toll this war has been taking. >> yeah, yasmin, and that toll might only get worse if you listen to advisers. not only to the ukrainian president but also in the u.s. as well. they say the duration of this war is likely going to stretch for quite some time. and going to get more intense. we see the fighting already intensifying to the east as you talk about today air raid sirens here in kyiv sounding. and what we're told by ukraine officials is that a missile was
intercepted by air defense systems. and shot down over the region. nowhere near the capital city. but again, it's just more evidence that russia has not slowed down as far as their attacks are concerned here. when it gets to the emotions of this war, for the president, his wife, they set up for the first time together since the war began. my colleague, erin maclachlan, describes what the first lady said about how rough it's been. >> allana zelenska describing the moment she realized the country was at war. how she was woken in the middle of the night by the sounds of explosions. i asked him what was going on and he said, it has started, she says. i can't describe the emotions i felt. anxiety, stupor. he told me this and left after that we didn't see each other for a long time. >> another part of that interview, she said that the infected scene show the from more than two months. and had just been recently reunited. the host of that program
kidding that they got their first date following the start of the war. >> all right, jay gray for, us thank you jay, we appreciate it. let's talk the economy here for a moment. the global economy, that is. we are listen 24 hours to wall street is opening tension growing for investors there. he got a bear market looming, inflation showing no signs of easing up. gas prices hitting a record high today. that's according to aaa on average you had a gallon, a regular costing $4.59. all of this coming together as the world economic forum is kicking off its annual meeting in davos. it is the first that they are meeting in person since the start of this pandemic. nbc correspondent hallie -- all the -- putting their brains together trying to figure this out. so the hope is they'll be able to considering what is looming. ahead you've got gas prices as i mentioned sky-high. summer is around the corner. a lot of people hitting the roads there. that's on the local small scale. global inflation as well. no signs of easing up. on that regard.
so talk us through kind of the agenda here and would actionable solutions you think it feasibly come out of this thing. >> top of the agenda, no doubt, it's gonna be president putin's war in ukraine. the impact that has on the global economy, on energy markets, even on climate change as well as food security. because one of the questions that's looming at this point is how will this war and and what that will mean for the reconstruction of ukraine. and frankly, the future of european relations because at the end of the day. one of the worst within hearing again and again is the idea of war in europe and with potentially due to up and the global economy enough in those folks at home who are worried about gas versus you say. and of course, one of the things that we're talking about specifically focus on those energy markets focus was happening in europe and the idea that if the europeans managed to push through legislation that would essentially bar russian oil from their market. well that could potentially mean for folks in the opec+ agreement. saudi arabia, the, away kuwait, as well as russia. so everyone's focus here on
inflation. the idea of attack inflation, recession, we're hearing that we're coming up again and again. we're also talking about the impact that potentially a famine, we're talking about that in africa and middle east. with that potentially could mean frankly for the rest the world. we're already seeing this impacting so many different areas. this idea of the ukrainians in the russians being unable to get the products to market. and part of this of course is something that we focus on here in the world economic forum for years now. which is those underprivileged countries, the less for most folks around the world and what this community the global foreign service business leaders international financial guys can actually do to impact that because as you know, this is the largest event of its scale. we're talking about world leaders, policy makers, the imf, the world bank, all coming together with financial leaders as well. the heads of the big banks are here. world leaders, talking about these issues. but whether or not they're going to have any actual solutions to the end of this four-day event. does anybody's guess. of this four-day event does any>> that's anybody's gue, that's perplexing when it comes to the economic forums, you
figure if they're coming together to figure it out, they walk away with some actionable solutions, or so we don't. hadley gamble, thank you as always. i'm prepared for a surge, the money would take for home -- the ready about might be becoming at the border. we'll be right back. l be right back. ver) conventional thinking would say verizon has the largest and fastest 5g network. but, they don't. they only cover select cities with 5g. and with coverage of over 96% of interstate highway miles, they've got us covered. >> welcome back, don't get rid
of title 42, that's what a new polls revealing today about the public health that were used to expel migrants at the -- political harvard star show that 55% opposing and ending the role. well 45% are in favor. the biden administration dealing with the fallout, after a louisiana judge blocked efforts to lift the trump era public health order that set to expire tomorrow. the order supposedly aimed at slowing the spread of covid, many say it wasn't acted to quickly expel migrants. and be seen julia ainsley it's following the story fast. julia, it's great to see you if
this policy was lifted how big of a concern of the administration to handle the surge of these migrants, how big would be, how would they pay for it? >> well, it depends what you're talking about. yes, for us financially there are concerns within dhs as we were able to reveal this week through internal documents we've obtained. there's a currents are in a dhs they don't have the finances to be able to quickly process, shelter, and transport migrants to their final destinations, where they make their claims for asylum. they were worried about major backlog at the border, and running out of money for border security, unless there was a supplemental requests to cover. if title 42's lifted, there still budget concerns because they're still at a record high migrant surge at the border. then you talk about politically, internally at the white house there is a fear, discussion at least even if those fears aren't outweighing when actually comes out as a result. we know that there are concerns
that this could impact midterms, we already have some democrats join republicans saying, it was too early to lift title 42, they were worried there wasn't a plan in place, and then a surge of the border could impact the reelection efforts. so, on that level they now don't have to worry about that, because a judge -- indefinitely kept title 42 in place. but the justice department appealed, which shows us that the biden administration at the end of the day does think that it's time to lift this order. >> so, if we're winning the options looking at how the biden administration seeing the landscape and looking ahead to the midterm elections, any kind of political blow back they may get when it comes to lifting title 42, what are we thinking when it comes to the timing of when we actually could in fact get lifted now, with the judges order in place? >> wow, the judge that he wanted to wait until he had an argument on the merits of the case. the merits come down to not only title 42 should be lifted, but whether the biden administration followed the right procedures, in other
words the state say that they should've had the opportunity to weigh and on how they would be impacted when title 42 is lifted. of course the biden administration and their defense said look, this is a public health authority, it was put in place but the cdc it can be removed by the cdc. but now it's out of that judges courtroom because of the appeal that will kick that up to the circuit level, it could also end up playing out in a supreme court. we've seen a number of immigration decisions like, -- remain-in-mexico and up in the supreme court and now the justices are skewing to be more conservative, they could be that they decide that they should be kept in place. the thing is though, essentially comes down to the fact that title 42 is a public health authority, so if you're going to use any tool to try to keep migrants back, this might not be the best one because as we would certainly help, covid is starting -- less and less of a risk, as stopping, but stopping international border traffic is starting to seem like just not a tool that is worth anything,
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motivated this gunman, have been front and center. but perhaps unsurprisingly, the only place you have may have not heard much about it is fox news. that is more than likely because fox host tucker carlson is the theory's most conspicuous promoter. the new york times investigation published this month found that carlson amplify this theory in more than 400 episodes on his primetime show. so you would think that someone like tucker, who has promoted this theory literally hundreds of times, with no replacement theory when he sees it. but that wasn't the case last week. >> you've heard a lot about the great replacement theory recently, it's everywhere in the last two days. and we're still not sure exactly what it is. >> so that's interesting. and here is what he said exactly 30 seconds later. >> the democratic party has decided that rather than convince you, people who were born here, that their policies are helping you and making their country better and stronger, they will change the
electorate. >> so if that's sounds familiar to you and have because you've heard it more than 400 times before. with me now to talk more about this is angelo kherson, president of the media matters for america. as you, as always, good to have you on the show. i kind of want to play two separate clips in which tucker carlson is talking about this replacement theory on his show. and that'll have you react on the other side. >> i mean, they're trying to change the population of the united states. and they hate it when you say that because it's true, but that's exactly what they're doing. the whole point of their immigration policy is to ensure political control, replace the population, get a different outcome. >> angelo, here's also what he said on january 3rd, 2020. as with a legal immigration, the long term agenda refugee resettlement is to bring in future democratic voters. obviously. coming your reaction to those. >> this is pretty standard fare, those are probably some of the letter clips. the one that i know so my mind
is when tucker very explicitly embraces, explain queer placement theory to his audience last april. and said that democrats were importing specifically people from south america, central america and mexico. because they were obedient. that was the word that he used. and therefore would reflectively vote for democrats or do what they wanted. and when he got blow back from that, he got a very rare thing from fox news which is that matthew murdoch actually came out defended him. he basically gave him the greenlight to intensify his use of the great replacement theory as opposed to repudiating him and admonishing him for being an advocate for. it >> what i think is interesting in incredibly worrisome is in a way, tucker carlson is kind of denying that he's putting this out there. and he's instead trying to make it more palatable to his conservative viewing audience by pretending it's not necessarily this replacement theory, and said you look at some of the polling here. from the associated press.
one third of all american adults feel they are losing their economic political and cultural influence to immigrants. making it in a way this idea that is more palatable to people that are watching him. that i think is more worrisome than anything. >> it is, because right now, part of the republican strategy is to organize power on we used to be considered the fringes. so this kind of winking and not approach to taking what should be a really far out there and fringe ideology and pulling it into the center. recent polling us of the nearly half of republicans believe in some core tenets of the group placement theory. that is scary because it is a potential way shun of the error strategy of escalating power on the fringes. and tucker, obviously, has the ability to do it. -- he was the single largest get out the vote operation for republicans for about the last 30 years. and he's not here. somebody has to fill that void. and so that void is being
filled, not just by a generalized bigot who basically went after everything but somebody who is really taking something from the fringes and really organizing power around just one major conspiracy theory. and by the way, we called conspiracy theory because it's not just doing this thing but that is actually jewish people that are the ones that are orchestrating it in order for them to perpetuate their power through them a crowded party. >> and you honestly, outsiders to carlson, you take a look at the rundown of any of the shows a fox news message rundown, that's basically if you're washing until a vision. it's basically the setup of your show whatever segment is. and if you're looking at the kind of tiktok of any show fox news. for the most part right now for instance leading with the immigration story this kind of fearmongering he thinks of the president talking about the caravan of democrats that are coming towards the next second border. and what that will mean for americans and their jobs and their safety here. >> yeah i'm so glad you pointed out, one thing that gets missing in this conversation sometimes, you pulled it right in it isn't just that fox
promotes great replacement theory, it's that they also -- with other things, so for example in the last seven days fox news, across the network 55 false claims of american babies were starving today hat because democrats were withholding formula for them to give it to immigrants. >> all right. angelo carusone, good conversation, coming up the top of the hour. today's and way from the georgia primary where trump's big lies on the ballot, like nowhere else. we'll be right back. ♪of travel i've had my share, man.♪ ♪i've been everywhere.♪ ♪♪
vossoughian if you're just joining us welcome it's good to see you, if you're still us thanks for sticking around. we are two days away from a test for democracy, a test that cannot fail. georgia voters heading to the polls for tuesday's primary which puts donald trump efforts to handpick the people who could potentially help him rig the next presidential election squarely on the ballot. he's trying to unseat the republican governor of the state who refused his pressure, to refuse the certification of joe biden's win in the state. and he's trying to defeat the republican secretary of state who would not bow to -- efforts like this one from then president the united states caught on tape. >> all i want to