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There more help from the private sector
against the corona virus pandemic a.p.

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Washington correspondent Sagar McGann the
Defense Production Act allows him to push

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businesses to produce and collect supplies
like ventilators and the masks we put

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into gear the administration's also effectively
closing the Mexican border to most

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travel except trade similar to

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a move with Canada this week it's also
suspending some student loan interest and

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bumping the income tax filing deadline by
3 months your new date will be July 15th

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amid the announcements the
president took exception when

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a reporter asked for his
message to people fearful of

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a virus that's now killed more than 10000
people globally what you say to Americans

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who are watching you right now
who are scared I say that you're

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a terrible reporter that's what I say Saager
Megali Washington Maine while several

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u.s. States Illinois Connecticut and
New York join California and ordering

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a lockdown trying to bring the
pandemic under control u.s.

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President Donald Trump applauded decisions
by the governors to order residents to

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stay home but said he did not think a
nationwide lockdown was needed the u.s.

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Said Friday at

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a begun the massive task of looking to
repatriate thousands of Americans stuck

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overseas in the coronavirus pandemic as
lawmakers pressed for more urgent action

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with much of the world imposing restrictions
on airlines canceling flights the

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State Department has warned that Americans
overseas risk being stranded for an

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indefinite period

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a union official says Air Canada will layoff
5000 employees because of flights cut

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traced to the Koran a virus

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a piece Charles de la Desmo has more current
His longest line is cutting routes and

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parking planes amid the pandemic The
group says the decision is temporary

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a welcome to be returned to active duty
status when the airline is able to ramp up

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this network schedule the layoffs affect
30000 plus mainland employees as well as

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over $1000.00 flight attendants at range
and kind of this disc. Brand the most rule

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based company says it will suspend the
majority of its international and u.s.

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Flights by March 31 I'm
Charles there was a small

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a South Korean news agency reports North
Korea fired an unidentified projectile

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toward the Sea of Japan Saturday the
news outlet cited South Korea's military

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earlier this month the nuclear armed
North carried out similar launches on 2

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occasions the latest launch comes as

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a prolonged hiatus in disarmament talks
with the United States drags on Iranian

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television Iranian state
television reports and

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a rainy and detained in France since
February 200-1000 is currently on

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a plane to Tehran this after Iran's judicial
authority said it was liaising with

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Paris over the release of

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a French prisoner held in the Islamic
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I'm Kim Lewis your host for this week's

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developments Well joining me via phone is

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one of issues in the news distinguished
journalist and that is j.j.

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Grey national security correspondent for w
t o p and host of Target USA welcome j.j.

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And thank you for your flexibility and
being able to join me via phone thank you

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Kam It's my pleasure and being

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a veteran of your way I certainly understand
your talent is that you're facing and

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applaud you for taking the steps to make
sure that the. Thank you so much well of

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course the biggest story of around the
globe right now is the corona virus which

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continues. Spread in various parts of the
world cases are now being reported even

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in Africa here in the us the state of
California has been shut down by the

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government and hopes of stopping the
spread of the virus while the u.s.

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Centers for Disease Control that myths
that much of co that 19 remains

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a mystery that corona virus has been around
for decades and recently from June 24th

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teen through July 2017 there
were 39 $1558.00 cases of

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a positive strain of Corona
just here in the u.s.

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Which is an average of $13196.00 cases
during that timeframe presently some

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parts of the world experience in

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a surge of the virus Well so far 86000
people have recovered from covert 19 what

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j.j. We have dealt with various
viruses in the past h one

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n one SARS murderers Ebola the Hong Kong
flu of the swine flu and back in the early

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1900 a flu epidemic that actually
initiated here in the u.s.

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But was known worldwide as the Spanish flu
which killed hundreds of thousands of

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people worldwide So what are your thoughts
on why this fire is has caused panic and

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fear here and the year 2020 there in
my opinion care more or 3 elements.

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Because. There is the way in which
it was responded to early on and

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then. We are so globally connected are
all contributing factors to what is

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blown up in the water when you're looking
at what took place when people started to

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grieve. In late December and it was

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a record year that. People started to
figure out something was going on there

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people or well. Realize just what could
happen flights were still coming out of

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the. Internet for several weeks after that
and it was there. Clear probably by the

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early part of January that that was blowing
up into something that the world the

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devil seen before I don't believe the world
was prepared for anything like this and

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I think the key thank you again is the
global connectivity here that has triggered

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this worldwide pandemic so quickly because
when you think about it this all started

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in late December as I mentioned that look
where we are down in the barge and you

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know there are 246000 cases of this and
it shows no signs of abating at least in

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this part of the world China is trying
to study right now it's not according to

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what they say and it's not clear that we
completely every time we hear from them is

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saying that there were no new cases if
that's the case and Greg but many people are

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worried about whether or not we can believe
what they're saying about this also

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Jay-Jay not everyone seems to be panicking
over this virus we're being shown videos

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and photographs of people and socialize
settings still such as the hundreds of

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beachgoers in Florida who are undergoing
a spring break also a family in the u.s.

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State of New Jersey they lost 3
family members to cope and 19 after

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a family gatherings so why do you think
people still are not heeding the warnings

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and complying with the government regarding
social distancing Tim I think that the

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time we live that I've spoken with people
who are experts in communications aside

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from the media I'm talking about corporate
and private sector communications and

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many different types of communications
even social media communications and what

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they have said to me is this is plain and
simple people have gotten used to being

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able to access what they want to hear when
they want to hear things that they are

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not necessarily interested
in saving or that this is

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a different situation and here's why yesterday
there are about 9000 plus cases it's

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7 30 in the morning here in the u.s.

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To. There 14000 yesterday there
were about 13000 to Durham and 7

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in the morning today there are 16000
so what this means is that the u.s.

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Veteran rate is growing faster than that
in Germany and it's probably going to move

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through many and even have to run by the
early part of next week and Italy and.

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The us and

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a part of it with that that the people
either don't know don't care or are not

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taking appropriate because
they're not sure what to do and

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a lot of. People simply as I mentioned
before ignore what they've been told and it

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a case of not knowing exactly what to do
Yes this takes me back our coverage here

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the Voice of America of the Ebola virus
in West Africa back on 2014 where

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a lot of the spread was due to people
basically not following direction people also

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getting mixed communication they're getting
from unification from health agencies

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from humanitarian agencies
the show the c.d.c.

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And yet they are also getting information
from their local you know village chiefs

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who are telling them sometimes giving them
the opposite of what they would being

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told by the c.d.c.

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So I don't think that would be the case
here Phil but I think it's mostly of what

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you're saying people just say I'm going
to live my life the way I want to I don't

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need the government to tell me what to do
so I think it's more of that than getting

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mixed signals Yeah that is true and this
is the here's the problem with people

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decide to take that approach then they
may live birth order because like your

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government or the government in the world
the leaders of the government are. The

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people who are believed to be in populations
around the world and here's why this

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is an airborne transmitted type of virus
and it can happen. Anyone And we've

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noted we've any situation where people who
either been on an airplane people who

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are in buildings people who. Are out in
public places forward think your government

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security every day. That their
grandparents. Their people

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to getting sick by being sick and by
the by are one thing that struck me as

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important is. That from The New York Governor
Andrew Cuomo on Thursday and he said

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. People have the virus and we don't know
who they are because we can't have them

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but the most telling thing he said to
me was found that people had that virus

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before we knew about it and that many of
them have recovered on their own but that

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can be in one of our what the problem
well before it became publicly known and

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there may be people struggling right now
so this is the key thing to be to be

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looking at I think for those people who
are reluctant to pay attention is that it

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may already be in your neighborhood may
already be in your home but you need to pay

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attention because the result could
be problematic exactly now j.j.

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We do have all brand us on the line with
us now we had some technical difficulties

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earlier and we're now able to bring him
and this is Paul Brandis White House

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reporter for West Wing reports and

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a columnist for USA Today thank you Paul
I'm so glad you could join us or you thank

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you good now fall for you here in the u.s.

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The Trump administration is taking measures
to not only combat the spread of the

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virus but to help people economically so
that the economy does not collapse from

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this some of these measures include

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a coronavirus stimulus plan to provide
people with cash to help small businesses

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stay in business and to prevent home
foreclosures he's also deploying to hospital

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ships one on the East Coast and one. On
the West Coast and also he may enable the

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Defense Production Act So how so far how
do you think President Trump is handling

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the pandemic Well according
to him he's doing

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a great job but the critics of course point
to the fact that we are well behind in

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testing here's kind of an interesting story
the 1st confirmed case of coronavirus

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was confirmed in both South Korea and the
United States on that ferry same day as

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South Korea has raced ahead with massive
testing of its people they have lowered

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the curve for bend the curve that's
sort of the phrase that's being

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a use chair but the United States in that
regard is way behind there are shortages

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testing kits there are shortages of maps
there are shortages of all kinds of

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medical gear all sorts of things this is
that me saying that this is governors

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around the nation who say that this is
Hospital officials around the country who

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are saying that so that's sort of the
situation on the ground and as this virus

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spread the number of cases is growing
quite rapidly I think is going to come

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a time when the shortages become quite
apparent judge of your thoughts on this I

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know you previously mentioned the lack of
testing in the beginning yeah exactly and

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you know we were seeing the results of
that one of the things that took place as

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this started was we were seeing in some
places like romantic rise in the number of

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cases in other places there were minimal
there was minimal reporting even yesterday

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you look at Russia Russia was reporting
something like 150 some cases of the

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coronavirus and that was only 10 more than
the day before one of us exploding on

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the western border and
girls that of course was

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a gigantic in China from the very beginning
Russia which sits in between them has

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not had more. A relatively few cases so I
thought if they can be gotten from prison

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people about that and out. They say they
believe the devil that is whining about it

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because it's

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a governmental thing relating to the
Clintons insisting getting who want to serve

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and then it's about the inability
to get care they can't get care so

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a part of what I'm hearing it will help
from some of the folks at the speaking with

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its doctors and have been told the inquest
to find the cases Okolona by was that

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they had pneumonia in order to none
disturb the political kerning and

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old girls who I need to say that on
not being able to tap kids but it's

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a problem not just here in the us but in
other places as well and on that note

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we're going to take

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panel j.j. Grey national security
correspondent for w t o p

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n host of Target USA and Paul Brandis White
House reporter for West Wing reports

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and

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a columnist for USA Today I'm going to throw
this question out to both of you what

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would it mean for people
if the government declares

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a coronavirus national emergency j.j.

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Well what it would mean and we should take
this very seriously I would stare into

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v.o.a.

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Building on September 11th 2001 and
for those who remember or Ok history

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of that day they know that plane that
crashed in some kinds of pain it was

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supposedly destined for the u.s.

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Capitol and for those who know
anything about the b.o.h.

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Building. Court is building literally
right across the street from the u.s.

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Capitol I can recall walking out the
door and seeing the streets swarmed with

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blankets you'd be with blue lights in a
panic I can also remember probably maybe

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a half an hour 40 minutes later walking up
to the roof of that building and seeing

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the Pentagon on fire and of course knowing
that 2 towers can't be hitting New York

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the whole country was in a bit of

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a panic so what this suggests to doing
right now is that somebody believes what

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they need to do in order
to deal with this on

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a national scale but what has to be done
if the same thing that were done later

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that very same day I remember walking down
the street independent there was not one

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car in sight there were only military
vehicles on the side and people were told

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walk in the center of the street and they
got down there away from that this was on

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the set of the streets what I'm getting
at here is they're going to be some very

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strict circumstances and London is
going to lock down shortly at least on

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a partial basis for this weekend it's not
clear how long that kind of activity they

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come to the u.s.

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That kind of activity may need people
needing permission slips if you will to be

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out on the streets it also may mean people
being cracked by the government that

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know that several governments overseas are
already doing that using location data

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from smartphones and other devices those
kinds of things could come to the u.s.

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If it gets to that point and based on where
we are right now and again mentioned

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earlier can people not heeding the advice
going in and some stimulant to prevent

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more infection that may be a
done deal here in the u.s.

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. And also Paul your thoughts on this that
I mentioned earlier that the governor of

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California shut the state of California
down meaning that people can only go out

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for essentials such as food items or arm
medicine they can go out to exercise I

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understand your thoughts on that. Well we're
already seeing some of the curfews in

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place for example in the state of
New Jersey which is on the u.s.

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East coast quite particular state
of the governor there has ordered

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a statewide therapy or you could only be
out in the burgeon see if we go into the

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grocery store or something and I think
those are beginning to pop up in other

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places but I want to comment
on something that j.j.

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Said very interesting point about 2001
that was now nearly 20 years ago hard

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to believe that so much time has passed
but what I think is interesting between

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then and now is that back then there was

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a lot more confidence
and trust in the u.s.

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Government to do the right things people
had trust and faith in the government to

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do what was right I think that is
not so much the case now we had

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a big economic crisis here in
2007 through 2009 and polls

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show that ever since then the trust that
Americans have in government to do the

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right things has

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a road ahead and I think that has
remained so we enter this crisis with

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a lot less trust and faith in government
to do the right thing frankly and also it

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has not helped that doesn't trump has said
things in the White House briefing room

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but frankly aren't true about how there's
testing kits available for every one of

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the numbers are going down and so forth
so in terms of 1st thing the government

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there are all kinds of reasons to support
of Syria that people simply don't have

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faith in the government to
do the right thing here in

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a crisis like this that is
only getting bigger that is

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a problem so I think that's something that
we have to keep in mind as well and also

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just want to go back and
look at China just for

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a 2nd where. It has been reported in Mohan
China that this virus originated and

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there have been reports that China
is saying and blaming even the u.s.

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For manufacturing this virus What do you
all thoughts on this yeah you know there's

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been discussions about this being

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a bioengineered virus from the very beginning
and there been even some prominent

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people including the u.s.

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Senate again theory in
public that this was

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a bioengineered this virus but he said that
it was trying to get it now so you know

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saying among others that
it's something the u.s.

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But you know you have
to think about this in

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a logical way if you look at what this is
done to China's economy it's basically

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delivered a blow to it
but it's going to take

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a while to recover from Henry
to talk about what the u.s.

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Is facing and this president is facing

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a real lead from here and the way this is
going this isn't going well for him or

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for the the u.s.

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For protecting them and I don't think that
anybody that leaks of anything or create

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anything like this to turn leases that
is going to do it without some kind of

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consultation or term front to how it's
going to impact them personally at home

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unless of course this with term that
scientists that nobody knows about I don't buy

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that conspiracy theory please what about
you Paul I mean if you look at all the

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damage that has been done in China an
awful lot of people killed their economy

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taking just a major hit over the
past couple months these kind of

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a virus is in pandemics have been

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a part of human history going back
to the very beginning it was only

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a century ago in fact that we had influenza
that killed millions of people around

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the world and I've been talking to various
experts on these kind of change who say

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look even when we get a grip on. As for
a virus and it's important to note that

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a vaccine they say is probably at least a
year away or perhaps even the wall girl

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a year and

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a half because one date that they're talking
about we're going to be other viruses

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and other pandemics that pop up from time
to time as well and some people fear in

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fact they could be even worse than this
one if you can believe but so this theory

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that you know some mad scientist in the lab
did something and that got out of hand

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if I could be blunt kind of crackpot theories
that pop up and they read around the

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Internet and I'm sure there are people who
believe those kind of things but I just

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don't think it's true what it's estimated
that the virus outbreak could go on for

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as long as 18 months so if so what
what The New Normal be like and what

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lessons have we learned so far from this
virus for instance I'm just looking at

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a lot of the small businesses for
example did they really have back

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a business plan to keep going in

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a case like this or even families do they
have preparations at home family go bags

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extra supplies at home so what lessons
have we learned Well I think back to the

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time in the 19 fifties and 1960 s.

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When there were fears of nuclear war and
school children practiced ducking beneath

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their desks that as if
that would be helpful in

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a nuclear war but people bought on shelters
and put them in their backyard and they

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stocked up on food and that kind of thing
I sense we're kind of going back to an

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era where I think some sort of

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a fear will hang over us rather like it
did back then I think this says kind of

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shaken at least Americans out of whatever

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a sense of complacency we may have had the
attacks of September 11th 2001 that j.j.

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Was talking about also shook this out of

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a complacency but that was 20. Years ago
and I think this whole kind of punitive

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same thing I think

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a lot of things that we've taken for granted
in the United States I'm sure this is

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true in Europe as well I'm not
sure we can take the kind of

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a carefree lifestyle that we've always had
to make we would have I don't think we

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can take that for granted
anymore and in terms of

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a lot of small businesses know most
of them don't have Paul back plants

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a lot of businesses literally
survive hand to mouth

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a lot of them I think they're going
to go under exposed to change

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a lot of things about way we live and
play I think it's going to result in more

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people telecommuting more people have

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a long distance education all sorts of
things that are going to change well that

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have been changing and I think this
crisis will simply accelerate seventy's

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preexisting changes said

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a how do you see the new normal Yeah Kim
what you said earlier about this perhaps

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stretching out over maybe 18 months is I
think spot on and what Paul said as well

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is right down the middle on the
people not just here in the u.s.

00:25:06
But around the world probably ought to look
at the. A long term scenario this great

00:25:12
from what I've heard from medical
professionals from intelligence officials and

00:25:17
from corporate experts as well and the
interesting part about this is that it comes

00:25:23
most likely in waves across this country
at least it'll probably happen in ways you

00:25:29
know it's not going to be approved week
scenario is not going to be 2 months today

00:25:33
it's probably going to happen in

00:25:34
a way that is essential there are many
people may have had this and didn't even

00:25:38
know it you know the symptoms are said to
be mild to moderate among some people but

00:25:43
there are 205 that in the us and we can
think of this similar to what we saw

00:25:50
that during the 911 crisis everything tends
to that we were warned about terrorism

00:25:56
then some people ignoring

00:25:58
a lot of people acted on. Already pandemics
made about them people have enjoyed the

00:26:04
movie people have ignored the warning so
I think there are other people talking

00:26:09
about preparations and here we are we're
away now and this is what we're going to

00:26:14
have you know what a days weeks
months and you know perhaps even

00:26:18
a year or more. We're not going to be able
to do the things that we did before for

00:26:24
a good while so people should have those
plans and Corey They should also prepare

00:26:29
for what we don't know and how did you
do that you do that by keeping your ears

00:26:33
open and your eyes open and remembering
that this whole business about hygiene is

00:26:40
key you know washing your hands and
things like their stuff is he right now

00:26:45
especially with your with it so
people are going to have to pay

00:26:48
a lot more it's not just what they see
went on but what they do out in public and

00:26:52
realize that this is going to be
a situation that may take quite

00:26:56
a while as well we're going to end our
program on that note I want to thank my 2

00:27:00
guests distinguished Washington journalist
Paul Brandis White House reporter for

00:27:04
West Wing reports and columnist
for USA Today and j.j.

00:27:08
Grain national security
correspondent for w.

00:27:12
And host of Target USA Thanks again for
your flexibility and for your thoughts as

00:27:17
we live through the covert 19 this was

00:27:20
a special edition of issues in the news
and we will continue to work to bring you

00:27:24
up to date information. Program for
as long as we able to do that.

00:27:36
For another edition of.

00:28:01
Lol Hello and welcome to beyond category
I'm Eric Felten We're here at the bikini

00:28:07
and caverns jazz nightclub
in Washington d.c.

00:28:10
To hear

00:28:10
a terrific young jazz trumpet player from
Trinidad and Tobago at the end Charles

00:28:16
let's head on and check it out.

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00:34:19
Etienne Charles man task man at the sound
of great thank you very much and tell me

00:34:24
about growing up and what you learned as

00:34:27
a musician growing up in Trinidad so
growing going through and I was really

00:34:32
a blessing it was extremely interesting
especially not often living in the u.s.

00:34:37
For so long the c.m.

00:34:39
Seeing all people grow up have seen that
some of the differences. In my family

00:34:43
music was always associated with dancing
always so any time the record player was

00:34:48
on. Somebody would be chipping
around the house when I was

00:34:52
a baby my mother would always come home
from work and she says that I would become

00:34:58
until she put music on my family
everybody played music and I was

00:35:02
a play quadrille guitar
bottle a school. Made

00:35:08
a difference from the play still panoply
still by my father pleased to have I'm on

00:35:11
complete steel bar. So it was always at
Christmas time specifically there's always

00:35:17
like

00:35:17
a bottomless boom jam going to the end
line be instruments it might be the record

00:35:21
player playing and people playing along
and singing and dancing you know I have

00:35:25
a different friend from Puerto Rico who
is musician and at Christmas time they

00:35:29
would always join these what are called
Piron that is how I got in doing Aguinaldo

00:35:32
music playing for people
bring out cookie dough

00:35:35
a little holiday drink and people just
care all night long would you do the same

00:35:40
kind of thing we have a big a
very similar cause of except

00:35:42
a cold Purana we call it
part around with a g.

00:35:45
In the air and it's the same thing you move
from house to house play and it's only

00:35:49
a lot of quater was guitar box bass
mandolin flutes and vocalists in the most

00:35:53
important part is you sing in the bottom
that it's so that's all they use in

00:35:56
a ceremony you go to
somebody's selves and you say

00:35:58
a sailor now then they let you weigh in
and then you sing some more and you think

00:36:02
Sean stop so they feed
you you know there's

00:36:04
a saying lot of love the Lord
that we get something. It's

00:36:08
a song about and then you go or
lonely you know it used to be

00:36:11
a house to house tradition so it
became of will be called upon

00:36:15
a new rule for most of the people
that you've been at one house. I'm

00:36:18
a long way if you get millet in

00:36:19
a Eventually you know as this huge mass
of people will move from house to house

00:36:25
very neighborhood viable and then you
have other great traditions in Trinidad

00:36:30
having a Carneval and

00:36:32
a very big and you know what did you
learn musically from playing in carnival

00:36:37
playing steel bands you know it seems that

00:36:40
a lot of jazz musicians
that grew up in the u.s.

00:36:43
Never connect the music their learning
with the dance tradition go on

00:36:49
a plane in the field by if the if the rhythm
section the groove it people that say

00:36:54
so so most importantly you know maintain
that to keep good to get good to

00:37:01
be good so you look up people's all people
all these top and if in the whole By

00:37:05
understand by a face to
plan a group which is

00:37:07
a bilingual play and then you know 120
people we want everybody's marking time we

00:37:12
want time with so even when we're not
playing any music you have you know hey at

00:37:18
200 sometimes 300 feet back and you feel
in the stable so it's just told your bar

00:37:23
energy about. Exchanging the energy
from the. Audience one of the most

00:37:30
important because you're. On the road to
role playing so to have rhythm is what's

00:37:36
driving people to keep moving I mean
you people. Sometimes 20 miles.

00:37:44
You know you've got to
keep. Going if you think.

00:37:54
Through what brought. A lot of this music

00:38:01
you were going to miss whether it keeps
them driving and you feel that still in the

00:38:05
music that you're playing. For what I have
what I have my music is very important

00:38:11
about like. Well maybe we can hear it in
the next 2 now I want to get the guys back

00:38:16
up and we're going to do 1st
next. We're going to do

00:38:21
a. Redo.

00:38:28
On this old. Fantastic.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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The to. The I'm.

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Plenty.

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Plenty.

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The I'm.

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The I'm.

00:49:26
Can Charles love that tune what was that
last time you did and you know those twins

00:49:32
oh so to my role about these little
goblin like creatures This is

00:49:37
a part of the Caribbean foreclosures
and specifically the Africa real focal

00:49:40
traditional story is that when

00:49:43
a child dies before having been baptized
they become of the way. That's the law and

00:49:49
. The thing about it the way it
is of the way in which alone

00:49:54
a hot cup of coffee and
his feet to ice into

00:49:58
a backwards gust the trickle of weight and
so when they walk one way you go another

00:50:03
way to look at for them so they annoy you
while you normal with. This silly primes

00:50:08
to type cards is. And you have twins and
you have the story of the Lambs in many

00:50:13
different cultures you have called balloons
that's the translation of the Web you

00:50:20
know in Spanish because they're called
do and be you know leprechauns all these

00:50:24
things are different foods of the same story
and so this is the Caribbean was sort

00:50:28
of in this simple pranksters you know one
of the great things in your music is you

00:50:33
are drawing on

00:50:34
a whole sort of pan Caribbean traditions
grooves from all sorts of countries

00:50:41
and you know a lot of times the u.s.

00:50:43
People say oh well you know play

00:50:45
a Latin beat and there are there are hundreds
thousands of different Latin rhythms

00:50:50
out there and there are so many
different Caribbean written such

00:50:53
a difference between what you get in the
Dominican Republic what you get in in

00:50:58
Haiti and it's just the other side of the
island right and how do you go about

00:51:02
trying to you know keep the flavor of
distinct rhythms and then mix them with other

00:51:08
rhythms that they might not necessarily
go with for me the way with them works I

00:51:14
try to find similarities between different
regions in terms of the rhythms so

00:51:21
so for instance with the winds which we
just played. The driving. Wrong that I

00:51:27
worded based on is actually

00:51:28
a more ranking of them when you have public
took me via group works very well on

00:51:33
Calypso as well so on the bridge we go to
Calypso So if you think about it strictly

00:51:39
from

00:51:39
a ethnomusicology. Point is you've gone
from Trinidad to the Dominican Republic but

00:51:46
in terms of sound the grooves blamed
for the well and then you blend it so

00:51:51
seamlessly with American jazz as well on
your most recent record Creole saw you do

00:51:57
the phoniest monk to Green Chimneys and
then you think that was a tune that was

00:52:01
a calypso tune when it was originally
written I thought you know it means it's

00:52:05
funny you say that because to
me that melody you listen to

00:52:08
a melody by itself bop bop bop bop
but oh yeah so me that's that's

00:52:14
a drum part alone Calypso or something of

00:52:16
a calling to play it would play on
will play oh so I'm Monk's music is.

00:52:24
Is definitely Caribbean influence
you know the names of his tools

00:52:28
a bench just played by just one is above
all beat us by was from via which means

00:52:33
you know because they come on over. His
bones and so strong just the way he

00:52:38
interprets most of these was that's he's
on another level Well I'd love to do

00:52:43
something with you maybe one of these tunes
where you blend Calypso with kind of

00:52:49
maybe traditional jazz harmonic
form the rhythm changes you get

00:52:54
a great tune called doing the thing on the
record list allowing one doing the thing

00:52:58
is

00:52:58
a tune I wrote in tribute to Blue Angel he
won his album The thing to do and it was

00:53:04
very influential on me having to Korea.
So be rolled out soon after them

00:53:11
changes based on George
Gershwin's out of the rhythm what

00:53:14
a calypso melody and the Calypso me antacid
Well let's get the guys up and give it

00:53:18
a try and look at the end Charles.

00:56:54
Now that was fun I was shocked for its
part on tenor saxophone Taylor I'd stay on

00:56:59
piano then Williams on the bass John Davis
on the drums and of course on trumpet Mr

00:57:05
Etienne Charles My name's Eric Felten and
I hope you'll join us again for more good

00:57:10
music on beyond category.

00:57:54
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00:57:59
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00:58:05
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