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Of protective gear from
medical professionals a.p.
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Saager Magon
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a New Jersey governor Phil Murphy says it
pains him but he's telling all 9000000
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residents not to go out California New York
and Illinois among others have done the
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same and Murphy's urging other governors
to follow suit we cannot run the risk of
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residents from one state simply moving
their parties or their shopping habits
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across state lines the top administration
has been knocking down Facebook posts and
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text messages that
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a national Corin teen is coming the president
says States and Middle America may
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only have a few cases and don't
need to lock down it may be
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a time I hope that never happens where
we need to take very drastic action but
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right now that's not in the same
ballpark Saager Megami Washington
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negotiators from Congress in the White
House where resuming top level talks on
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ballooning
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a one trillion dollars plus economic rescue
package the Senate convened the rare
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week in session with the aim of drafting
the package Saturday holding an initial
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vote Sunday and winning Senate passage
Monday minority leader Chuck Schumer says
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the talks made progress we discussed many
of the outstanding issues and we are
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making their
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e good progress treasury
secretary Stephen Newton began
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negotiators in negotiations with McConnell
Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer
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and senators from both parties
using McConnell's g.o.p.
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Offer as a starting point.
Prime Minister Decepticon t.
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Said on Saturday that all Italian
businesses must close until April 3rd the
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exception of those essential to maintain
and country supply chain save me came
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after Italy close all parks and banned
citizens from going out this is the only
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news error in Jordan in Iran's death
toll continue to climb as can countries
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across the Middle East sought to stem the
outbreak of the coronavirus one of the
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strictest measures yet Jordan ordered all
shops to close and all people to stay off
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the streets until at least Tuesday when
it plans to announce specific times for
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shopping another 123 people have died of
covert 1000 in Iran bringing the country's
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overall toll to more than $1500.00
people Egypt announced at all museums in
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archaeological sites including the famed
pyramids would be closed for Monday until
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the end of March Egypt also announced
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a temporary suspension of Friday prayers
and of the congregations in all mosque
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Syria said it was all it's also suspending
all recruitment as well as penalties for
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those avoiding mandatory conscription North
Korea Saturday welcome what it said was
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a letter from u.s.
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President Donald Trump to North Korean
leader Kim Jong loon saying it was
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a sign of the special
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a very firm personal relations between
the 2 leaders despite recent frictions.
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North Korea's state media has
said that Kim had received
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a letter from Mr Trump in which the u.s.
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President said he was impressed by the North
Korean leader's efforts to defend his
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people from the coronavirus
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a senior Trump administration
official confirmed the president sent
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a letter and called it consistent with his
efforts to engage global leaders during
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the ongoing pandemic since Mr Trump held
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a 3rd summit with Kim last June and
briefly stepped into North Korea from the
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demilitarized zone with South Korea
no progress has been made on the u.s.
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. The president's bid to get pee on young
to give up its nuclear and missile
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programs country music legend Kenny
Rogers is being remembered for his
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accomplishments after it was announced over
the weekend that he died at the age of
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81 Governor Andrew Cuomo says New York
City is getting 1000000 much needed and 95
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masks. You got. Hold of
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Roger's
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a Grammy Award winning singer whose career
stretches back 7 decades actually started
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in a jazz band before he
went solo in the 1970 s.
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Became best known for iconic songs like the
gambler and his duet with Dolly Parton
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called islands in the stream.
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But as each caught up with him he was
forced to step back and cancel the last leg
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of his farewell tour 2 years ago at Reuters
Matthew lever time to reporting I'm
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Tommy McNeill feeling.
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From Washington v.o.a.
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Presents issues in the news. Welcome to
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a special edition of issues in the news
I'm Kim Lewis your host for this week's
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show if you're wondering why I am hosting
this show as everyone is now aware the
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cold it 19 pandemic has affected all aspects
of our lives including our programming
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here at the Voice of America we are working
very hard using creative ways to help
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keep you up to date on the latest news
developments Well joining me via phone is
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one of issues in the news distinguished
journalist and that is j.j.
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Grey national security correspondent for w
t o p and host of Target USA welcome j.j.
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And thank you for your flexibility and
being able to join me via phone thank you
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Kim It's my pleasure and being
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a veteran of the bureau way I certainly
understand your challenge is that your face
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and applaud you for taking the steps to
make sure that the show goes. Thank you so
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much well of course the biggest story of
around the globe right now is the corona
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virus which continues to spread in various
parts of the world cases are now. Being
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reported even in Africa here in the u.s.
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The state of California has been shut down
by the government and hopes of stopping
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the spread of the virus while the u.s.
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Centers for Disease Control that
makes that much of covert 19 remains
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a mystery the corona virus has been around
for decades and recently from 24 team
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through July 2017 there
were 39558 cases of
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a positive strain of Corona
just here in the u.s.
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Which is an average of 13196 cases
during that timeframe presently some
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parts of the world experiencing
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a surge of the virus Well so far 86000
people have recovered from Cove it 19 what
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j.j. We have dealt with various
viruses in the past h one
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n one SARS murders Ebola the Hong Kong
flu the swine flu and back in the early
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1900 a flu epidemic that actually
initiated here in the u.s.
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But was known worldwide as the Spanish flu
which killed hundreds of thousands of
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people worldwide So what are your thoughts
on why this fire is has caused panic and
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fear here in the year 2020 there in
my opinion there are 3 elements.
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And also there is the way in which it
was responded to early on and then.
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We are so globally connected all contributing
factors to why this is blown up in
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the water when you're looking at what
took place inside people started.
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In late December I think it was rather than
Korea that December that people started
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to figure out something was going on but
people or slow to realize just what could
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happen flights were still coming out of
the. Internet when for several weeks after
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that and it was very clear probably by the
early. Out of January he said that was
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blowing up into something that the world
had never seen before I don't believe the
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world was prepared for anything like this
and I think the key thank you again is
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the global connectivity here that has
triggered this worldwide pandemic so quickly
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because when you think about it this all
started in late December as I mentioned
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that look where we are down to barge and
you know there are 246000 cases of this
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and it shows no sign of abating at least
in this part of the world China is kind of
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steady right now it's not according to
what they say and it's not clear that we
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completely every time we hear from them
saying that there were no new cases if
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that's the case and Greg but many people
are worried about whether or not we can
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believe what they're saying about this
also Jay-Jay not everyone seems to be
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panicking over this virus we're being shown
videos and photographs of people and
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socialise setting still such as the
hundreds of beachgoers in Florida who are
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undergoing this spring break
also a family in the u.s.
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State of New Jersey they lost 3
family members to cope at 19 after
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a family gathering so why do you think
people still are not heeding the warnings
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and complying with the government regarding
social distancing Kim I think that the
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time we live it I've spoken with people
who are experts including case and aside
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from the media I'm talking about corporate
and private sector communications and
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many different types of communications
even social media communications and what
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they have said to me is this is plain and
simple people have gotten used to being
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able to access what they want to hear
when they want to hear it and seems that
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they're not necessarily interested
in Baden or that this is
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a different situation and here's why yesterday
there are about 9000 plus cases it's
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7 30 in the morning here in the u.s.
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Today there are 14000 yesterday. There
were about 13000 to Germany at 7
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in the morning today there are 16000
so what this means is that the u.s.
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Infection rate is growing faster than that
in Germany and it's probably going to
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move past given
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a pass even past the run by the early
part of next week and only Italy and.
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Infection in the u.s.
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And
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a part of that has to do with the fact that
people either don't know don't care for
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are not taking appropriate action
because they're not sure what to do and
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a lot of this has to do with people simply
as I mentioned before ignoring what
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they've been told and in other cases that
not knowing exactly what to do Yes this
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takes me back to our coverage here at the
Voice of America of the Evolve Iris in
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West Africa back in 2014 where
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a lot of the spread was due to people
basically not following direction people also
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getting mixed communication they're getting
communication from health agencies from
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humanitarian agencies
are w.h.o. The c.d.c.
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And yet they're also getting information
from their local village chief who are
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telling them sometimes giving them the
opposite of what they would being told by
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the c.d.c. So I don't think
that would be the case here
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a full that think it's mostly what you're
saying people can say I'm going to live
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my life the way I want to I don't need
to government to tell me what to do so I
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think it's more of that than getting mixed
signals Yeah that is true and this is
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the here's the problem with that if people
decide to take that approach then they
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may live much shorter because
like your government or not is
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a government in the world the leaders of
the government are just as impacted as
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people who are the least those in populations
around the world and here's what I'm
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saying is that this is an airborne transmitted
type of virus and it can happen to
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anyone and we've noticed we've seen.
Situations where people who either been on an
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airplane people who have been in buildings
people who are out in public places
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forward think your government figures
every day my dad and grandparents
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everyone is for people to getting sick by
being sick and by that but one thing that
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struck me as important is that I recently
went on The New York Governor Andrew
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Cuomo on Thursday and he said. 2 people
have the virus and we don't know
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who they are because we can't catch them
but the most telling thing in that I mean
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we're down to the people had this
virus before we knew about it that
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many of them have recovered on their
own but this can in coronavirus work
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a problem well before it became publicly
known and there may be people struggling
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with it now so this is the key thing to be
to be looking at I think with of people
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who are reluctant to pay attention is that
it may already be in your neighborhood
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may already be in your home but you need
to pay attention because the result could
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be problematic exactly now j.j.
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We do have Paul brand us on the line with
us now we had some technical difficulty
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earlier and we're now able to bring him
and this is Paul brand us White House
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reporter for West Wing reports and columnist
for USA Today thank you Paul I'm so
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glad you could join us for you thank you
good now fall for you here in the u.s.
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The trumpet ministration is taking measures
to not only combat the spread of the
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virus but to help people economically so
that the economy does not collapse from
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this some of these measures include
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a coronavirus stimulus plan to provide
people with cash to help small businesses
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stay in business and to prevent home
foreclosures he's also deploying to hospital
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ships one on the East Coast and one on the
West Coast and also he may. Enable the
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Defense Production Act So how so far how
do you think President trumpets handling
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the pandemic Well according
to him he's doing
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a great job but the critics of course point
to the fact that we are well behind in
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testing here's kind of an interesting story
the 1st confirmed case of coronavirus
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was confirmed in both South Korea and the
United States on the ferry same day as
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South Korea has raced ahead
with massive testing
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a bit people they have lowered the curve
'd for bends the curve that's sort of the
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phrase that's being used here but the
United States in that regard is way behind
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there are shortages testing kits there are
shortages of masts there are shortages
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of all kinds of medical gear all sorts of
things this isn't me saying that this is
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governors around the nation who say that
this is Hospital officials around the
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country who are saying that so that's sort
of the situation on the ground and as
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this virus spread the number of cases is
growing quite rapidly I think is going to
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come
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a time when the shortages become quite
apparent judger your thoughts on this I know
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you've previously mentioned the lack of
testing in the beginning yeah exactly and
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you know we were seeing the results of
this one of the things that took place as
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this started was we were seeing in some
places like romantic rise in the number of
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cases in other places there were minimal
there was minimal reporting even yesterday
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you look at Russia Russia was reporting
something like 160 some cases of the
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coronavirus and that was only 10 records
and then before well it's exploding on the
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West and 400 girls that of course was
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a gigantic hero in China from the beginning
Russia with this and between them has
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not had more than
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a relatively few places so lots of. If
you take everything out in front of some
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people about that cigarettes and that's
what they say they believe whatever that is
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whining about it because it's
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a governmental relating to me couldn't
insistent getting to war turns to serve and
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then it's about the inability to
get to it they can't get it so
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a part of what I'm hearing as well from
some of the folks at the meeting with is
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darker than have been told the inquest to
find the cases of Corona virus that they
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had pneumonia in order to 9 disturb the
political courage and also hold to
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who I need to say that on not being
able to tap kids but kids are
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a problem not just here in the us but in
other places as well and on that note
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we're going to take
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a short break issues in the news is coming
to you from the Voice of America in
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Washington if you would like to download
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a comment or 2 then like us at current
affairs with Carol Castiel Now back to our
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panel j.j. Grey national
security correspondent for w t
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o p and host of Target USA and Paul Brandis
White House reporter for West Wing
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reports and
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a columnist for USA Today I'm going to throw
this question out to both of you what
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would it mean for people
if the government declares
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a coronavirus national emergency j.j.
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Well what it would mean and we should take
this very seriously I would stare into
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v.o.a.
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Building on September 11th 2001 and for
those who can remember or tell the history
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of that day they know that plane that
crashed in Shanksville Pennsylvania was
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supposed to think destined for the u.s.
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Capitol and for those who know
anything about the b.o.h.
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Building headquarters building literally
right across. The street from the u.s.
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Capitol I can recall walking out the door
and seeing the streets swarmed with black
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S.U.V.s with blue lights in a panic
I can also remember probably maybe
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a half an hour later walking up to the
roof of that building and seeing the
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Pentagon on fire and of course knowing that
2 towers had been hitting New York the
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whole country was in a bit of
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a panic so what this suggests to doing
right now is that authorities believe what
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they need to do in order
to deal with this on
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a national scale but what has to be done
is the same thing that was done later that
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very same day I remember walking down the
street independent there was not one car
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in sight there are only military vehicles
on the side of the road and people were
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told walk in the center of the street and
you got down there away from that this
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was on the set of the streets what I'm
getting at here is they're going to be some
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very strict circumstances and London is
going to lock down shortly at least on
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a partial basis for this weekend it's not
clear for how long that kind of activity
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they come to the u.s.
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That kind of activity may need people
needing permission slips if you will to be
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out on the streets it also may mean people
being cracked by the government that
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know that several governments overseas are
already doing that using location data
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from smartphones and other devices those
kinds of things could come to the u.s.
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If it gets to that point and based on where
we are right now and again mentioned
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earlier can people not heeding the advice
going in and some simulated to trigger
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more infection that may be a
done deal here in the u.s.
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And let themselves and also call your
thoughts on this that I mentioned earlier
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that the governor of California shut the
state of California down meaning that
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people can only go out for essentials such
as food items or medicine they can go
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out to exercise I understand your thoughts
on this well we're already seeing some
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of the current. Plays For example in the
state of New Jersey which is on the u.s.
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East coast quite popular state of
the governor there has ordered
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a statewide curfew you could only be out
in the Burj and see if you go into the
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grocery store or something and I think
those are beginning to pop up other places
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but I want to comment
on something that j.j.
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Said very interesting point about 2001
that was now nearly 20 years ago hard
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to believe that so much time has passed
but what I think is interesting between
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then and now is that back then there was
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a lot more confidence
and trust in the u.s.
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Government to do the right things people
had trust and safety in the government to
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do what was right I think that is
not so much the case now we had
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a big economic crisis here
in 2007 proof 2009 and polls
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show that ever since then the trust that
Americans have in government to do the
00:21:04
right thing has eroded and I think that
has remained so we enter this crisis with
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a lot less trust and faith in government
to do the right thing frankly and also it
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has not helped that present from has said
things in the White House briefing room
00:21:22
that frankly aren't true about how there's
testing kits available for everyone in
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the numbers are going down and so forth
so in terms of 1st thing the government
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there are all kinds of reasons to support
the theory that people simply don't have
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faith in the government to
do the right thing here in
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a crisis like this that is
only getting bigger that is
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a problem so I think that's something that
we have to keep in mind as well and also
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just want to go back and
look at China just for
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a 2nd where it has been reported in one.
On China that this virus originated and
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there have been reports that China
is saying and blaming even the u.s.
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For manufacturing this virus What do you
all thoughts on this yeah you know in
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discussions about this being
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a book bioengineered virus from the
very beginning and there been even some
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prominent people including the u.s.
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Senator. Theory in public that this was
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a bioengineered this virus but he said
that it was trying to do it now is
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saying among others that
it's something the u.s.
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But you know you have
to think about this in
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a logical way if you look at what this is
done to China's economy it's basically
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delivered a blow to it
that it's going to take
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a while to recover from and
really talk about what the u.s.
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Is facing and this president is facing
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a real lesson here than the way this is
going this isn't going well for him or for
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the u.s.
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For protecting them and I don't think that
anybody that leases anything or create
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anything like this the current leases that
is going to do it without some kind of
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consultation or some front to how it's
going to impact them personally at home
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unless of course this term scientist
that nobody knows about I don't buy the
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conspiracy theory piece what about you
Paul I mean if you look at all the damage
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that has been done in China an awful lot
of people killed their economy taking just
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a major hit over the past couple months
these kind of of viruses and pandemics have
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been a part of human history going
back to the very beginning it was only
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a century ago in fact that we had influenza
that killed millions of people around
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the world and I've been talking to various
experts on these kind of saints who say
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look even when we get a
grip on this on a buyer or
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a Senate support to you know. That
vaccine they say is probably at least
00:24:00
a year away or perhaps even
the wall girl or a year and
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a half because one date that they're talking
about we're going to be other viruses
00:24:08
and other pandemics that pop up from time
to time as well and some people fear in
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fact they could be even worse than this one
if you can clip it so this theory that
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you know some a mad scientist in
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a lab did something and that got Pat of
hand if I could be blunt kind of crackpot
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theories that pop up and they read around
the Internet and I'm sure there are
00:24:32
people who believe those kind of things but
I just don't think it's true what it's
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estimated that the virus outbreak could
go on for as long as 18 months so if so
00:24:42
what what The New Normal be like and what
lessons have we learned so far from this
00:24:48
virus for instance I'm just looking at
00:24:50
a lot of the small businesses for example
did they really have back up business
00:24:55
plans to keep going in
00:24:56
a case like this or even families do they
have preparations at home family go bags
00:25:01
extra supplies at home so what lessons have
we learned quite think back to the time
00:25:06
in the 19 fifties and 1960 s.
00:25:09
When there were fears of nuclear war and
schoolchildren practiced ducking beneath
00:25:16
their desks those as if
that would be helpful in
00:25:19
a nuclear war but people bought on shelters
and put them in their backyard and they
00:25:24
stocked up on food and that kind of thing
I sense we're kind of going back to an
00:25:30
era where I think some sort of
00:25:33
a fear will quango over us rather like it
did back then I think this says kind of
00:25:40
shaken at least Americans out of whatever
00:25:43
a sense of complacency we may have had the
attacks of September 11th 2001 that j.j.
00:25:49
Was talking about also shook this out of
00:25:51
a complacency but that was 20 years ago and
I think this whole kind of. Do the same
00:25:58
thing I think
00:25:58
a lot of things that we've taken for granted
in the United States and I'm sure this
00:26:03
is true in Europe as well I'm not
sure we can take the kind of
00:26:07
a carefree lifestyle that we've always
assumed we would have I don't think we can
00:26:12
take that for granted
anymore and in terms of
00:26:15
a lot of small businesses know most of
them don't have a fallback plan for
00:26:20
a lot of businesses literally
survive a hand to mouth
00:26:24
a lot of them I think are going
to go under it's going to change
00:26:27
a lot of things about way we live and
play I think it's going to result in more
00:26:32
people telecommuting more people having
long distance education all sorts of things
00:26:38
that are going to change well that have
been changing and I think this crisis will
00:26:42
simply accelerate some of these
preexisting changes said
00:26:46
a how do you see the new normal Yeah Kim
what you said earlier about this perhaps
00:26:51
stretching out over maybe 18 months I
think spot on and what concept as well is
00:26:58
right down the middle on the
people not just here in the u.s.
00:27:01
But around the world probably
ought to look at the as
00:27:05
a long term scenario is based on what I've
heard from medical professionals from
00:27:10
intelligence officials and from corporate
experts as well and the interesting part
00:27:15
about this is that it comes most likely in
waves across this country at least it'll
00:27:21
probably happen in ways you
know it's not going to be
00:27:24
a 2 week scenario is not going to be too
much to their you know it's probably going
00:27:29
to happen in ways that is essential there
are many people may have had this and
00:27:32
didn't even know it you know the symptoms
are said to be mild to moderate amounts
00:27:36
from people but there are 205 that in
the us and we can think of this similar
00:27:43
to what we saw that during the 911 crisis
everything tends to that we were warned
00:27:49
about terrorism and some people ignored it
00:27:52
a lot of people acted on we've been
warned about a pandemic there's been
00:27:56
a movie made. People have sat there and
enjoyed the movie people have ignored the
00:28:01
warning that scientists and other people
talk about preparations and here we are
00:28:06
we're away now and this is what
we're going to have you know what
00:28:10
a days weeks months and
you know perhaps even
00:28:12
a year more than that we're not going
to be able to do the things that we did
00:28:17
before for
00:28:18
a good while so people should have those
plans and points they should also prepare
00:28:24
for what we don't know and have to do that
we do that by keeping your ears open and
00:28:28
your eyes open and remembering that this
whole business about hygiene is key
00:28:35
you know washing your hands and things
like there that stuff is he right now
00:28:40
especially when we deal with it so
people are going to have to pay
00:28:42
a lot more attention to not just what
they see went on but what they do out in
00:28:46
public and realize that this is going
to be a situation that may take quite
00:28:50
a while as well we're going to end our
program on that note I want to thank my 2
00:28:54
guests distinguished Washington journalist
Paul Brandis White House reporter for
00:28:59
West Wing reports and columnist for USA
Today and Jay Jay Green national security
00:29:04
correspondent for w t
00:29:06
o p and host of Target USA Thanks again for
your flexibility and for your thoughts
00:29:11
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00:29:15
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00:29:25
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00:29:47
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The science edition of Press
Conference USA here's your host battle
00:29:53
a. Welcome to the science edition of
Press Conference USA I'm Rick Banta Layo
00:30:00
on today's program we are going to talk
about what's on everyone's mind these days
00:30:05
the coronavirus pandemic that's sweeping
the world but before we get into our topic
00:30:10
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00:30:15
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Colvin 19 or coronavirus 2019 is the name of
00:31:02
the disease that's caused by
00:31:03
a novel or new corona virus that has never
before been detected in humans according
00:31:09
to the National Institutes
of Health coronaviruses are
00:31:12
a large family of viruses that usually
cause mild to moderate upper respiratory
00:31:18
tract illnesses like the common cold those
who have tested positive for Cove and 19
00:31:23
have ranged from having very mild symptoms
with some reporting no symptoms to those
00:31:28
severe with illnesses that result in death
concern over the spread of covert 19
00:31:33
continues to touch virtually every aspect
of daily life national regional and local
00:31:39
government leaders have put unprecedented
policies into effect to help mitigate the
00:31:44
spread of covert 19 the pan. Demigods
affecting the global economy throwing the
00:31:48
world's financial markets into
00:31:50
a period of extreme volatility and
uncertainty governments and international
00:31:55
organizations are planning to implement
significant measures to help offset the
00:31:59
potential economic impact of the pandemic
people are encouraged to practice
00:32:04
something called social distancing which
Johns Hopkins University defines as
00:32:09
a public health practice that prevents
sick people from coming into close contact
00:32:13
with healthy people to reduce opportunities
for disease transmission This means
00:32:17
that schools are closing with some offering
online education instead of classroom
00:32:22
education in many parts of the world scores
of restaurants and theaters have closed
00:32:27
their doors with New York's Broadway dimming
its lights until at least April 12th
00:32:32
major sporting events have been canceled
or postponed the world's religions have
00:32:36
been affected by the pandemic with many
closing their churches mosques synagogues
00:32:41
and temples to the public and offering
online or televised additions of their
00:32:46
religious services today will talk about
covert 19 the corona virus that causes it
00:32:52
what medical science is learning about it
efforts being made to mitigate the spread
00:32:56
of the disease and what we may expect in
the future my co-host for today's program
00:33:01
is v.o.a.
00:33:02
Health reporter Carole Pearson and our
featured guest for today's program is Dr
00:33:07
Thomas Frieden m.d.
00:33:09
Dr Frieden is an infectious disease and
public health physician he is currently
00:33:13
President and c.e.o.
00:33:15
Of resolve to save lives and initiative
that has been established to prevent
00:33:19
epidemics and cardiovascular disease
from 2009 to 2017 Dr Frieden served
00:33:26
as director of the Centers for Disease
Control and Prevention in Atlanta Georgia
00:33:31
and before that it was commissioner of
the New York City Health Department Dr
00:33:36
Frieden Can you please take us back to the
start of this cove in 1000 crisis how
00:33:41
did the virus develop and then initially
spread it back gale of hearing out. Is
00:33:46
that emerged in China around November
of last year and then spread ultimately
00:33:53
from Bath host through some intermediate
animal supposed possibly were probably to
00:34:00
what's called
00:34:00
a wet market or an market where exotic
animals are sold for food this is the same
00:34:06
way the stories virus spread 17 years earlier
from China no one is certain but what
00:34:12
is certain is that this is unprecedented
never before has there been
00:34:17
a brand new virus including Does this but
other than influenza and brand new virus
00:34:22
that has emerged in one part
of the world and become
00:34:25
a pandemic all over the world and yet there
are people who say that this virus was
00:34:31
manufactured in
00:34:32
a lab and then let loose it's one of the
rumors how do we know that that's not true
00:34:37
there are many rumors about viruses and I
feel that as with many different microbes
00:34:43
sunlight is the best disinfectant getting
information and making it clearly and
00:34:47
openly available will allow that kind of
rumor to be assessed there are genetic
00:34:53
fingerprint of the virus that according
to the viral exist who know this best
00:34:57
suggests that this is not an engineered
virus this is a naturally occurring virus
00:35:02
a very much like some would occur in nature
and this is how SARS spread in 2003 so
00:35:09
the weight of evidence now certainly
suggests that something like
00:35:13
a wet market from
00:35:14
a natural source in the way that this is
most likely to have spread if there are
00:35:19
other theories or concerns or have pocket
his Social be looked at openly and
00:35:23
transparently so that sunlight can disinfect
that you know I know no vaccines have
00:35:28
been developed at this point to prevent the
confection Dr Anthony Fauci says it may
00:35:33
be 18 months or so before one is available
for general distribution What are your
00:35:38
thoughts on that there are things that we
can do right now every one of us need to
00:35:43
wash our hands more cover our cost. Not
infect others if we get ticked and stop
00:35:49
shaking hands for
00:35:50
a while people who are medically vulnerable
older people what's underlying health
00:35:55
conditions where this is spreading in
the community really need to isolate
00:35:59
themselves from others to protect themselves
health care facilities need to learn
00:36:04
to surge safely that means improving Infection
Prevention and Control getting ready
00:36:10
to treat large numbers of people with just
mild illness and also getting ready to
00:36:17
veer situation to have to treat people
who need support for breathing with
00:36:21
ventilators or oxygen in society as
00:36:24
a whole we need to think about social
distancing and increasing that distance
00:36:30
between people canceling unnecessary meetings
and other large gatherings and making
00:36:36
sure that we continue to learn more about
this virus so we can do more about it one
00:36:41
thing is that we may have
00:36:43
a treatment in the market weeks or months
and that could occur and then it will be
00:36:48
a question of getting it to people back
seen development is very challenging and
00:36:53
though there are promising candidate that
seems we have no guarantee that I've got
00:36:58
the scene will become available and
if it does it will be at least
00:37:02
a year or 2 from that that we absolutely
have to do everything in our power to try
00:37:07
to get
00:37:07
a vaccine but we can't depend on it and
there's no certainty that we'll have it we
00:37:12
don't know that there will be
00:37:13
a safe and effective vaccine available
but we certainly hope that will be Dr
00:37:17
Frieden you mentioned the social
distancing and I understand
00:37:21
a number of people who are undergoing
self quarantine when you're talking about
00:37:24
both what kind of period of time are we
talking about how long the ship Yeah great
00:37:30
question we have no idea how long it will
continue in China they had hundreds of
00:37:36
millions of people stay home and they just
gradually would be opening the economy
00:37:42
and society right now they're doing such
extensive work. But it doesn't look like
00:37:47
outside of the province of the bay where
this started it doesn't look like there's
00:37:51
command
00:37:52
a virus so there people can go about
their business carefully and it's an arc
00:37:56
sponsored try to contain them but we don't
know what will happen in the future and
00:38:00
you want to do with confidence they know
what's going to happen with the spiders
00:38:04
doesn't know enough about this virus
there is one doctor at the University of
00:38:09
Maryland who looked at where the corona
virus was breaking out and the temperatures
00:38:15
of the regions where it was
breaking out and he just published
00:38:20
a study saying that in his opinion according
to the numbers he saw this should
00:38:26
mitigate it should kind of disappear as it
gets warmer in these regions do we know
00:38:32
a little bit more about this look we've
looked at that study and we don't find it
00:38:36
convincing hypotheses it could be
better and it gets warmer but that's
00:38:43
a guess there's no evidence to support that
gas this virus is new to the world and
00:38:48
when you look at influenza it behaves very
differently in tropical climates from
00:38:53
temperate climates in tropical climate it
spreads all year round so there's no flu
00:38:59
season but there's
00:39:00
a lot of new all year round and if we look
at other Karuna viruses other similar
00:39:05
viruses one of them at least has
00:39:07
a peak both in the winter and in the summer
so the only time we can hope for the
00:39:13
bad but more importantly we have to work
for the best and we have to plan for the
00:39:18
worst I'm talking gesture and that Africa
is in some way immune to this disease
00:39:23
which we've seen on social media is very
dangerous because there's no evidence that
00:39:28
that's the case and in fact we're beginning
to see that in Africa where they're
00:39:32
looking for it which is the case is that
this disease is more severe among older
00:39:37
people and so societies that have
00:39:39
a smaller proportion of people who are
elderly many have more difficulty
00:39:44
identifying it online. Did you catch them
why do some countries seem to have fewer
00:39:50
reported cases than others and how is
this possible there are several things
00:39:54
happening 1st this is spreading very
rapidly around the world but it's not
00:39:59
spreading evenly it's more in some places
I've been in others partly because travel
00:40:04
patterns and partly because of events that
may allow it to spread very widely as
00:40:10
happened in South Korea in one community
also in different parts of the country
00:40:16
there has been
00:40:17
a lot of different parts of the world so
when we look around the United States and
00:40:22
around the world we see
places that don't have
00:40:24
a lot of diagnosed cases some of these
places are looking and not finding and don't
00:40:29
have it yet others of them simply aren't
looking so we don't know yet but certainly
00:40:35
the camps in the United States today is
that anyone with severe pneumonia should be
00:40:40
tested for this so we can understand
what's happening we also need to really
00:40:45
protect congregate facilities places
like nursing homes where this can spread
00:40:49
explosively hospitals prisons homeless
shelters these are all the locations where I
00:40:55
didn't mean like this can really reach
havoc Dr Frieden you said that if you have
00:41:01
severe pneumonia you should be tested but
I had drifted to that by the time you
00:41:07
have severe pneumonia this virus has
damaged your lungs is that too late and
00:41:14
there's been a lot of confusion
about the testing here if
00:41:18
a community is trying to contain the virus
that is find every single infection and
00:41:22
stop them and testing is very important if
00:41:26
a community doesn't know that kind of virus
is there and testings very important to
00:41:31
find out when it comes in if some and ill
with Kareena there is it's very you know
00:41:36
it's important to test them so that they
can be cared for safely and rolled in
00:41:40
clinical trials and we can understand
more about the nature of this disease and
00:41:45
there are. Very important because Eve
detectives after the mirror large
00:41:49
investigations that need to be done in order
for us to learn more about the viruses
00:41:55
we can do more about it but in contrast in
00:41:59
a community where the virus is spreading
widely and it has become difficult or
00:42:05
impossible to find all of the chain the
transmission and testing has much more
00:42:10
limited role. Unfortunately I think the
situation in several communities of the
00:42:16
United States 'd now early on when it's
good when you try to find every case but
00:42:21
where it starts they can widely in the
community you have to devote your resources
00:42:25
to doing as much good as you can protecting
people as much as you can I had read
00:42:31
that some Taiwanese experts said if
you do this in the morning but take
00:42:35
a deep breath hold your breath for more
than 10 seconds and if you can do that
00:42:40
without coughing without discomfort without
stiffness or tightness in your chest
00:42:45
then there's no fibrosis in your
lungs and they also recommend taking
00:42:50
a few sips of water so your mouth and
breath stay moist and because if you don't
00:42:55
drink enough water the virus can enter
your windpipe and then get into your lungs
00:42:59
What do you recommend this
is well you know there's
00:43:02
a lot of rumor going on on the Internet I
think it's important that we focus on the
00:43:08
things that we have reasonable evidence
base are going to help wash your hands
00:43:13
regularly Tarver your mouth and nose when
you cough or sneeze and cover it with
00:43:18
crook of the elbow or with
00:43:20
a tissue to throw out don't go out if
you're sick or if you do go out and you're
00:43:24
sick where that stop shaking and don't go
to mass gatherings these are things that
00:43:31
we know are likely to be kept you on
to protect others if they're older my
00:43:38
mother was 90 on my advice use taking
long walks outside and walking
00:43:43
a lot of movies and reading books not in.
Reacting with others because in reading
00:43:48
of a community where she lives
Dr I'm curious how long does
00:43:52
a corona virus infection last how long
could we if someone is infected and is
00:43:57
displaying symptoms of the corona virus
how long can they expect to be under the
00:44:01
weather from the coronavirus it we happen
to China and elsewhere suggest that we're
00:44:06
not an adult and people who get an action
will have either no symptoms or mild
00:44:12
moderate symptoms and may feel better Mr
Lossing will 'd make your grab for as long
00:44:17
as
00:44:17
a few weeks with people with severe illness
or saying relatively long courses of what
00:44:23
we're seeing people get
sick aggressively over
00:44:27
a dog and Game 7 to 10 days and then they
stick to work 3 weeks and then recover
00:44:33
very grudgingly So who are
people for whom the severe it's
00:44:37
a long struggle to deal with it sounds
like a recovery time of pneumonia it is
00:44:43
a model of bottle. When all exhale all
the peace came in one of the long string
00:44:49
that bottle quite prominent place on
the pine to the Carter form Let's take
00:44:56
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days now back to the science edition
00:45:51
of Press Conference USA Today
we're talking about covert 19
00:45:56
a corona virus that causes it what medical
science is learning about it efforts
00:46:00
being made to mitigate the spread of the
disease and what we may expect in the
00:46:05
future my co-host today is the away health
reporter Carol Pearson and our featured
00:46:10
guest is Dr Thomas Frieden m.d.
He is president and c.e.o.
00:46:15
Of resolve to save lives and initiative
that has been established to prevent
00:46:20
epidemics and cardiovascular disease Dr
Frieden previously served as director of
00:46:26
the Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention in Atlanta Georgia and as the
00:46:30
commissioner of the New York City Health
Department Dr Frieden I'm curious to know
00:46:35
how cool that 19 especially the more serious
cases is being treated in hospitals
00:46:40
and other medical facilities Well 1st and
foremost you need to be treated safely
00:46:46
every patient coming in with cough or.
Shortness of breath need to be isolated
00:46:53
and we need to ensure the health care workers
are protected from getting infections
00:46:58
2nd we need to make sure that care is as
effective as possible and right not with
00:47:05
what's called supportive care or encouraging
people to do whatever possible to
00:47:12
support the breathing patients who have
severe pneumonia and that may mean
00:47:16
supplemental oxygen that
may mean ECMO which is
00:47:20
a way of action eating the
blood or putting someone on
00:47:24
a ventilator this is something which in
many low and middle income countries isn't
00:47:29
widely available and even in the
most advanced cities in the world
00:47:34
a bad outbreak of coronavirus could overwhelm
capacities health care facilities to
00:47:40
provide that later support the
people 'd who actually the u.s.
00:47:46
Is. About 2 weeks behind Europe which is
the current area where it's spreading
00:47:52
rapidly just the closeness of where people
live in Europe and that man thinking of
00:47:59
Italy we've seen pictures of people singing
from their balconies does that have any
00:48:04
impact on how easily the virus can spread
what we've seen is mass gatherings
00:48:11
being potential places where lots of
people can spread and we still don't know
00:48:17
a lot about the patterns it spread but
certainly when people have lived together
00:48:22
and mixing closely there's
00:48:24
a potential event that spread that's why
it's so important that people who have
00:48:29
coughs or Steve knocked out
and they go out to get
00:48:33
a hospital do so safely covering their mouth
and know Dr Frieden we've been talking
00:48:40
a little bit about at least Carol when
you have bench and at the nightmarish
00:48:44
condition in Italy how did things get so
out of hand so quickly one of the really
00:48:49
striking features about
coronavirus is how rapidly. With
00:48:56
colleagues we've recently reviewed the
evidence and will be publishing it this week
00:49:00
on what are called super spreading. And in
those events large numbers of people get
00:49:07
infected in these 2
00:49:09
a period of time and what we find is that
to prevent those events you really need
00:49:15
to act very vigorously within about
one week in order to limit the damage
00:49:22
and it doesn't help like in the United
States schools are closing people the
00:49:28
federal government for the most part is
now teleworking Are these the sorts of
00:49:33
things that will buy you some time there
are certain things that certainly make
00:49:38
sounds kind of working reducing mass
gatherings going to tell me things schools are
00:49:45
a much more competent. Good issue although
there are things even if the bill passed
00:49:49
for the clues to schools it's not necessarily
going to have the thin impact this is
00:49:56
because although children get infected
with this virus it's not new news based
00:50:02
credit to add to this is
00:50:03
a different influenza we conclude and kids
are an important source explained at the
00:50:10
famous into song and if
you click a schools for
00:50:13
a couple of months you may be able to knock
down the number of cases of influenza
00:50:18
by as much as 40 percent but we don't
know whether about the case here with
00:50:25
coronavirus and for all of these
steps what's key is to balance the
00:50:32
projected cost not just economic but also
societal against the potential health
00:50:38
benefits of taking that action so while
there are schools closing that may not
00:50:44
always be indicated for maximally effective
to protect society and of course
00:50:50
schools have many. Important social
functions in addition to education and when
00:50:56
kids are out often their. Parents can't
work so there are lots of things to
00:51:02
consider with this and it's really an
explanation of cost estimates for example Dr
00:51:08
Frieden going to ask you your personal
opinion here what is your reaction to the
00:51:13
public health response to this pandemic
misses on precedents. Other than the flu in
00:51:19
that which spreads each
year we've never seen
00:51:23
a new virus emerge and then spread around
the world it has already been more
00:51:30
destructive than any infectious disease
event since the 19181919 influenza
00:51:36
pandemic so the most destructive
infectious read event in more than
00:51:42
a 100 years. One of the things that I wish
we would do more and I hope that we do
00:51:49
more very quickly is to learn
more about how the virus spreads
00:51:56
whether it's spreads from children and
asymptomatic people what works best to
00:52:02
protect health care workers so that we
can target our interventions and the as
00:52:07
effective as possible and are the steps
that means that public health departments
00:52:13
need to be in the lead on the response
figuring out what works communicating that
00:52:19
effectively with the public and doing
investigations so that we can learn more good
00:52:26
more practical Dr Frieden you've mentioned
the 1918 flu epidemic have we learned
00:52:31
any lessons from that that we're applying
to this current pandemic there has been
00:52:35
a lot of planning around and Demick how to
address them how to mitigate the impact
00:52:43
and that's the playbook that many groups
and countries are now using to respond to
00:52:49
that coded 19 pandemic so that planning has
been very helpful but every infectious
00:52:55
disease is going to be
different and requires
00:52:57
a different approach and that's why getting
information as quickly as possible and
00:53:01
using that information to track people is
so critically important this it corroded
00:53:07
virus the novel one is very similar I
understand to the SARS coronavirus
00:53:14
that broke out again in China some
years ago could this possibly be just
00:53:19
a mutation of that. This has some relation
to the starting fires but it's not that
00:53:26
closely related in the
sense than it is not
00:53:29
a descendent of that there is what we know
is that coded is both more infectious
00:53:36
and less deadly than the stars as we don't
know how much more in taxes and how much
00:53:42
less deadly it can the same family unlike
SARS it doesn't look like we're going to
00:53:48
be able to stop this and make it go away
forever so we need to figure out how to
00:53:52
manage it how to mitigate and reduce the
harm that causes house societal harms
00:53:59
Dr Frieden like covert 19 the 1st reported
case of SARS was reported in November in
00:54:05
2002 to the w.h.o.
00:54:08
Have announced that it had been contained
by chill live 2003 do you think the world
00:54:13
health officials will be able to contain
coded 19 within the same period and that's
00:54:18
when you think it will peak. I well I think
no one can predict when with the heat
00:54:25
but it doesn't look like
containment that is getting it
00:54:32
compute plea hours of society may
not be possible it has spread
00:54:39
so widely with so many chains of transmission
that unlike SARS coded looks like it
00:54:45
may not be able to be seen at this point
so we're going to have to do whatever we
00:54:51
can to reduce the impact on societies
particularly societies which have limited
00:54:58
health services to protect
00:54:59
a child services that we can reduce the
societal harms and also reduce the risk
00:55:06
that other core health they get this
will get disrupted children need to get
00:55:11
vaccinated women need to get reproductive
health care people with chronic pain even
00:55:16
need to get them treated people who have
close trash with another injury need to
00:55:20
have them attended to all of those things
need to continue want told it is with us
00:55:25
I was talking to a doctor at the u.s.
00:55:28
Food and Drug Administration and she was
saying that she would like to see you know
00:55:34
. Testing for like 10000
people on a random basis in
00:55:40
a particular community just to see because
we don't know how widespread this virus
00:55:46
is we don't know who has it but doesn't
show symptoms who has it but the symptoms
00:55:52
are so mild they don't even notice do you
think that that would be helpful at all.
00:55:58
There are
00:55:58
a few epidemiologic investigations that are
very much one of them is to test people
00:56:05
with what is known as flu like illness
or prove that there are surveillance
00:56:11
networks for you to learn to like illness
in. More than $100.00 countries around
00:56:17
the world and those networks need to be
in our being and we per page to track the
00:56:22
cause of that 2nd. People who are
severely ill with hospitalization
00:56:30
need to be tested for coated to see if
they've got it and 3rd we need to do
00:56:36
special study studies
that. Will. Determine
00:56:43
things like how widely it's betting whether
they're in symptomatic cases I remember
00:56:48
we don't yet have
00:56:49
a blood test only test we have for
it. Through the merits of the Go
00:56:56
feelings or swab that test is not 100
percent accurate there are false negatives
00:57:02
so we need to look very carefully to see
what happens here Dr Frieden we're almost
00:57:08
out of time is there anything specific that
you want to tell our audience about the
00:57:13
epidemic this is
00:57:15
a severe pandemic and it's frightening
but it's important to remember that most
00:57:20
people who get Cobra will do well each 90
percent of those infected have mild to
00:57:26
moderate you know symptoms. It will be
hard to many people Webster illness and
00:57:31
tragically too many who died and although
the coronavirus and Democrats certainly
00:57:38
get worse before it gets better it will
get better and even in the worst of the
00:57:44
pandemic many people and no one knows what
portion will get infected and those who
00:57:49
do get infected 99 out of 100. So it's
responsible and important to be proactive
00:57:56
now and limit the harms of called Good
Night but it's also good to keep in mind
00:58:01
that this flu will par Dr Frieden I want
to thank you so very much for taking time
00:58:06
out of your busy schedule to talk with us
and share your wonderful insights into
00:58:10
this pandemic thank you very much. And
I'm afraid that's all the time we have
00:58:17
for this science edition of Press Conference
USA My guest was Dr Thomas Frieden
00:58:23
m.d. President and c.e.o.
00:58:25
Of resolve to save lives and initiative
that has been established to prevent
00:58:30
epidemics and cardiovascular disease he
was also the director of the Centers for
00:58:35
Disease Control and Prevention and
commissioner of the New York City Health
00:58:39
Department I'd like to thank my colleague
and co-host for this program the away
00:58:43
health reporter Carole Pearson the science
edition of Press Conference USA was
00:58:48
produced in Washington our studio technician
today was and. I'm Rick thanking you
00:58:55
once again for listening and for understanding
our programming limitations due to
00:59:00
the coronavirus time to you our dear
listeners please take care. And stay healthy
00:59:07
and please join Carole Castillo again next
week for another press conference USA on
00:59:13
The Voice of America.
00:59:48
This is the deal with. This President
Trump says there's no need right now
00:59:55
for a national shutdown even as another state
orders its residents to stay home a.p.
01:00:01
Correspondent Saager Magon
01:00:02
a New Jersey governor Phil Murphy says it
pains him but he's telling all 9000000
01:00:07
residents not to go out California New York
and Illinois among others have done the
01:00:12
same and Murphy's urging other governors
to follow suit we cannot run the risk of
01:00:18
residents from one state simply moving
their parties or their shopping habits
01:00:23
across state lines the trumpet ministrations
been knocking down Facebook posts and
01:00:28
text messages that
01:00:29
a national Corin teen is coming the president
says States and Middle America may
01:00:34
only have a few cases and don't
need to lock down it may be
01:00:37
a time I hope that never happens where
we need to take very drastic action but
01:00:42
right now that's not in the same ballpark
solderer Megami Washington negotiators
01:00:47
from Congress and the White House resume
top level talks Saturday on the ballooning
01:00:52
one trillion dollar plus economic rescue
package the Senate conveyed to the rear
01:00:59
week in session with the aim of drafting
the package Saturday holding an initial
01:01:03
vote Sunday and winning Senate passage on
Monday Majority Leader Mitch McConnell
01:01:09
said everyone must act in the
country's best interest Marla being
01:01:13
a laid off every day more small businesses
are being forced to showed payroll every
01:01:18
day. Are nurses and doctors
are running lower on k.
01:01:22
Supply. Every day. Treasury
secretary Steve Minuit began
01:01:29
negotiations with McConnell Senate
Democratic leader Chuck Schumer and senators
01:01:35
from both parties using McConnell's g.o.p.
01:01:38
Offer as
01:01:38
a starting point the prime minister Decepticon
today said Saturday that all Italian
01:01:43
businesses must close until April 3rd
with the exception of those essential to
01:01:47
maintaining the country supply
chain this is the u.a.e.
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News air raid sirens sounded
in Jordan and Iraq.
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Of protective gear from
medical professionals a.p.
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Saager Magon
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a New Jersey governor Phil Murphy says it
pains him but he's telling all 9000000
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residents not to go out California New York
and Illinois among others have done the
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same and Murphy's urging other governors
to follow suit we cannot run the risk of
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residents from one state simply moving
their parties or their shopping habits
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across state lines the top administration
has been knocking down Facebook posts and
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text messages that
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a national Corin teen is coming the president
says States and Middle America may
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only have a few cases and don't
need to lock down it may be
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a time I hope that never happens where
we need to take very drastic action but
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right now that's not in the same
ballpark Saager Megami Washington
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negotiators from Congress in the White
House where resuming top level talks on
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ballooning
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a one trillion dollars plus economic rescue
package the Senate convened the rare
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week in session with the aim of drafting
the package Saturday holding an initial
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vote Sunday and winning Senate passage
Monday minority leader Chuck Schumer says
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the talks made progress we discussed many
of the outstanding issues and we are
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making their
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e good progress treasury
secretary Stephen Newton began
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negotiators in negotiations with McConnell
Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer
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and senators from both parties
using McConnell's g.o.p.
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Offer as a starting point.
Prime Minister Decepticon t.
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Said on Saturday that all Italian
businesses must close until April 3rd the
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exception of those essential to maintain
and country supply chain save me came
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after Italy close all parks and banned
citizens from going out this is the only
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news error in Jordan in Iran's death
toll continue to climb as can countries
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across the Middle East sought to stem the
outbreak of the coronavirus one of the
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strictest measures yet Jordan ordered all
shops to close and all people to stay off
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the streets until at least Tuesday when
it plans to announce specific times for
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shopping another 123 people have died of
covert 1000 in Iran bringing the country's
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overall toll to more than $1500.00
people Egypt announced at all museums in
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archaeological sites including the famed
pyramids would be closed for Monday until
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the end of March Egypt also announced
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a temporary suspension of Friday prayers
and of the congregations in all mosque
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Syria said it was all it's also suspending
all recruitment as well as penalties for
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those avoiding mandatory conscription North
Korea Saturday welcome what it said was
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a letter from u.s.
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President Donald Trump to North Korean
leader Kim Jong loon saying it was
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a sign of the special
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a very firm personal relations between
the 2 leaders despite recent frictions.
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North Korea's state media has
said that Kim had received
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a letter from Mr Trump in which the u.s.
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President said he was impressed by the North
Korean leader's efforts to defend his
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people from the coronavirus
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a senior Trump administration
official confirmed the president sent
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a letter and called it consistent with his
efforts to engage global leaders during
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the ongoing pandemic since Mr Trump held
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a 3rd summit with Kim last June and
briefly stepped into North Korea from the
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demilitarized zone with South Korea
no progress has been made on the u.s.
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. The president's bid to get pee on young
to give up its nuclear and missile
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programs country music legend Kenny
Rogers is being remembered for his
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accomplishments after it was announced over
the weekend that he died at the age of
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81 Governor Andrew Cuomo says New York
City is getting 1000000 much needed and 95
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masks. You got. Hold of
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a Grammy Award winning singer whose career
stretches back 7 decades actually started
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in a jazz band before he
went solo in the 1970 s.
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Became best known for iconic songs like the
gambler and his duet with Dolly Parton
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called islands in the stream.
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But as each caught up with him he was
forced to step back and cancel the last leg
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of his farewell tour 2 years ago at Reuters
Matthew lever time to reporting I'm
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Tommy McNeill feeling.
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From Washington v.o.a.
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Presents issues in the news. Welcome to
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a special edition of issues in the news
I'm Kim Lewis your host for this week's
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show if you're wondering why I am hosting
this show as everyone is now aware the
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cold it 19 pandemic has affected all aspects
of our lives including our programming
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here at the Voice of America we are working
very hard using creative ways to help
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keep you up to date on the latest news
developments Well joining me via phone is
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one of issues in the news distinguished
journalist and that is j.j.
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Grey national security correspondent for w
t o p and host of Target USA welcome j.j.
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And thank you for your flexibility and
being able to join me via phone thank you
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Kim It's my pleasure and being
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a veteran of the bureau way I certainly
understand your challenge is that your face
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and applaud you for taking the steps to
make sure that the show goes. Thank you so
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much well of course the biggest story of
around the globe right now is the corona
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virus which continues to spread in various
parts of the world cases are now. Being
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reported even in Africa here in the u.s.
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The state of California has been shut down
by the government and hopes of stopping
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the spread of the virus while the u.s.
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Centers for Disease Control that
makes that much of covert 19 remains
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a mystery the corona virus has been around
for decades and recently from 24 team
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through July 2017 there
were 39558 cases of
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a positive strain of Corona
just here in the u.s.
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Which is an average of 13196 cases
during that timeframe presently some
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parts of the world experiencing
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a surge of the virus Well so far 86000
people have recovered from Cove it 19 what
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j.j. We have dealt with various
viruses in the past h one
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n one SARS murders Ebola the Hong Kong
flu the swine flu and back in the early
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1900 a flu epidemic that actually
initiated here in the u.s.
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But was known worldwide as the Spanish flu
which killed hundreds of thousands of
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people worldwide So what are your thoughts
on why this fire is has caused panic and
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fear here in the year 2020 there in
my opinion there are 3 elements.
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And also there is the way in which it
was responded to early on and then.
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We are so globally connected all contributing
factors to why this is blown up in
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the water when you're looking at what
took place inside people started.
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In late December I think it was rather than
Korea that December that people started
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to figure out something was going on but
people or slow to realize just what could
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happen flights were still coming out of
the. Internet when for several weeks after
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that and it was very clear probably by the
early. Out of January he said that was
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blowing up into something that the world
had never seen before I don't believe the
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world was prepared for anything like this
and I think the key thank you again is
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the global connectivity here that has
triggered this worldwide pandemic so quickly
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because when you think about it this all
started in late December as I mentioned
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that look where we are down to barge and
you know there are 246000 cases of this
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and it shows no sign of abating at least
in this part of the world China is kind of
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steady right now it's not according to
what they say and it's not clear that we
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completely every time we hear from them
saying that there were no new cases if
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that's the case and Greg but many people
are worried about whether or not we can
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believe what they're saying about this
also Jay-Jay not everyone seems to be
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panicking over this virus we're being shown
videos and photographs of people and
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socialise setting still such as the
hundreds of beachgoers in Florida who are
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undergoing this spring break
also a family in the u.s.
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State of New Jersey they lost 3
family members to cope at 19 after
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a family gathering so why do you think
people still are not heeding the warnings
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and complying with the government regarding
social distancing Kim I think that the
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time we live it I've spoken with people
who are experts including case and aside
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from the media I'm talking about corporate
and private sector communications and
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many different types of communications
even social media communications and what
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they have said to me is this is plain and
simple people have gotten used to being
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able to access what they want to hear
when they want to hear it and seems that
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they're not necessarily interested
in Baden or that this is
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a different situation and here's why yesterday
there are about 9000 plus cases it's
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7 30 in the morning here in the u.s.
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Today there are 14000 yesterday. There
were about 13000 to Germany at 7
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in the morning today there are 16000
so what this means is that the u.s.
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Infection rate is growing faster than that
in Germany and it's probably going to
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move past given
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a pass even past the run by the early
part of next week and only Italy and.
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Infection in the u.s.
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And
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a part of that has to do with the fact that
people either don't know don't care for
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are not taking appropriate action
because they're not sure what to do and
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a lot of this has to do with people simply
as I mentioned before ignoring what
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they've been told and in other cases that
not knowing exactly what to do Yes this
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takes me back to our coverage here at the
Voice of America of the Evolve Iris in
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West Africa back in 2014 where
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a lot of the spread was due to people
basically not following direction people also
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getting mixed communication they're getting
communication from health agencies from
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humanitarian agencies
are w.h.o. The c.d.c.
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And yet they're also getting information
from their local village chief who are
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telling them sometimes giving them the
opposite of what they would being told by
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the c.d.c. So I don't think
that would be the case here
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a full that think it's mostly what you're
saying people can say I'm going to live
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my life the way I want to I don't need
to government to tell me what to do so I
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think it's more of that than getting mixed
signals Yeah that is true and this is
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the here's the problem with that if people
decide to take that approach then they
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may live much shorter because
like your government or not is
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a government in the world the leaders of
the government are just as impacted as
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people who are the least those in populations
around the world and here's what I'm
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saying is that this is an airborne transmitted
type of virus and it can happen to
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anyone and we've noticed we've seen.
Situations where people who either been on an
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airplane people who have been in buildings
people who are out in public places
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forward think your government figures
every day my dad and grandparents
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everyone is for people to getting sick by
being sick and by that but one thing that
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struck me as important is that I recently
went on The New York Governor Andrew
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Cuomo on Thursday and he said. 2 people
have the virus and we don't know
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who they are because we can't catch them
but the most telling thing in that I mean
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we're down to the people had this
virus before we knew about it that
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many of them have recovered on their
own but this can in coronavirus work
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a problem well before it became publicly
known and there may be people struggling
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with it now so this is the key thing to be
to be looking at I think with of people
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who are reluctant to pay attention is that
it may already be in your neighborhood
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may already be in your home but you need
to pay attention because the result could
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be problematic exactly now j.j.
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We do have Paul brand us on the line with
us now we had some technical difficulty
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earlier and we're now able to bring him
and this is Paul brand us White House
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reporter for West Wing reports and columnist
for USA Today thank you Paul I'm so
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glad you could join us for you thank you
good now fall for you here in the u.s.
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The trumpet ministration is taking measures
to not only combat the spread of the
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virus but to help people economically so
that the economy does not collapse from
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this some of these measures include
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a coronavirus stimulus plan to provide
people with cash to help small businesses
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stay in business and to prevent home
foreclosures he's also deploying to hospital
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ships one on the East Coast and one on the
West Coast and also he may. Enable the
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Defense Production Act So how so far how
do you think President trumpets handling
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the pandemic Well according
to him he's doing
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a great job but the critics of course point
to the fact that we are well behind in
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testing here's kind of an interesting story
the 1st confirmed case of coronavirus
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was confirmed in both South Korea and the
United States on the ferry same day as
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South Korea has raced ahead
with massive testing
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a bit people they have lowered the curve
'd for bends the curve that's sort of the
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phrase that's being used here but the
United States in that regard is way behind
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there are shortages testing kits there are
shortages of masts there are shortages
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of all kinds of medical gear all sorts of
things this isn't me saying that this is
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governors around the nation who say that
this is Hospital officials around the
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country who are saying that so that's sort
of the situation on the ground and as
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this virus spread the number of cases is
growing quite rapidly I think is going to
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come
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a time when the shortages become quite
apparent judger your thoughts on this I know
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you've previously mentioned the lack of
testing in the beginning yeah exactly and
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you know we were seeing the results of
this one of the things that took place as
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this started was we were seeing in some
places like romantic rise in the number of
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cases in other places there were minimal
there was minimal reporting even yesterday
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you look at Russia Russia was reporting
something like 160 some cases of the
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coronavirus and that was only 10 records
and then before well it's exploding on the
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West and 400 girls that of course was
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a gigantic hero in China from the beginning
Russia with this and between them has
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not had more than
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a relatively few places so lots of. If
you take everything out in front of some
00:15:58
people about that cigarettes and that's
what they say they believe whatever that is
00:16:03
whining about it because it's
00:16:04
a governmental relating to me couldn't
insistent getting to war turns to serve and
00:16:11
then it's about the inability to
get to it they can't get it so
00:16:17
a part of what I'm hearing as well from
some of the folks at the meeting with is
00:16:21
darker than have been told the inquest to
find the cases of Corona virus that they
00:16:28
had pneumonia in order to 9 disturb the
political courage and also hold to
00:16:35
who I need to say that on not being
able to tap kids but kids are
00:16:40
a problem not just here in the us but in
other places as well and on that note
00:16:45
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00:16:46
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affairs with Carol Castiel Now back to our
00:17:11
panel j.j. Grey national
security correspondent for w t
00:17:15
o p and host of Target USA and Paul Brandis
White House reporter for West Wing
00:17:19
reports and
00:17:20
a columnist for USA Today I'm going to throw
this question out to both of you what
00:17:25
would it mean for people
if the government declares
00:17:28
a coronavirus national emergency j.j.
00:17:32
Well what it would mean and we should take
this very seriously I would stare into
00:17:36
v.o.a.
00:17:37
Building on September 11th 2001 and for
those who can remember or tell the history
00:17:43
of that day they know that plane that
crashed in Shanksville Pennsylvania was
00:17:49
supposed to think destined for the u.s.
00:17:51
Capitol and for those who know
anything about the b.o.h.
00:17:54
Building headquarters building literally
right across. The street from the u.s.
00:17:58
Capitol I can recall walking out the door
and seeing the streets swarmed with black
00:18:04
S.U.V.s with blue lights in a panic
I can also remember probably maybe
00:18:10
a half an hour later walking up to the
roof of that building and seeing the
00:18:15
Pentagon on fire and of course knowing that
2 towers had been hitting New York the
00:18:19
whole country was in a bit of
00:18:21
a panic so what this suggests to doing
right now is that authorities believe what
00:18:27
they need to do in order
to deal with this on
00:18:30
a national scale but what has to be done
is the same thing that was done later that
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very same day I remember walking down the
street independent there was not one car
00:18:41
in sight there are only military vehicles
on the side of the road and people were
00:18:45
told walk in the center of the street and
you got down there away from that this
00:18:50
was on the set of the streets what I'm
getting at here is they're going to be some
00:18:53
very strict circumstances and London is
going to lock down shortly at least on
00:18:58
a partial basis for this weekend it's not
clear for how long that kind of activity
00:19:02
they come to the u.s.
00:19:04
That kind of activity may need people
needing permission slips if you will to be
00:19:09
out on the streets it also may mean people
being cracked by the government that
00:19:13
know that several governments overseas are
already doing that using location data
00:19:18
from smartphones and other devices those
kinds of things could come to the u.s.
00:19:22
If it gets to that point and based on where
we are right now and again mentioned
00:19:28
earlier can people not heeding the advice
going in and some simulated to trigger
00:19:32
more infection that may be a
done deal here in the u.s.
00:19:36
And let themselves and also call your
thoughts on this that I mentioned earlier
00:19:41
that the governor of California shut the
state of California down meaning that
00:19:45
people can only go out for essentials such
as food items or medicine they can go
00:19:51
out to exercise I understand your thoughts
on this well we're already seeing some
00:19:56
of the current. Plays For example in the
state of New Jersey which is on the u.s.
00:20:02
East coast quite popular state of
the governor there has ordered
00:20:07
a statewide curfew you could only be out
in the Burj and see if you go into the
00:20:13
grocery store or something and I think
those are beginning to pop up other places
00:20:18
but I want to comment
on something that j.j.
00:20:21
Said very interesting point about 2001
that was now nearly 20 years ago hard
00:20:28
to believe that so much time has passed
but what I think is interesting between
00:20:33
then and now is that back then there was
00:20:37
a lot more confidence
and trust in the u.s.
00:20:41
Government to do the right things people
had trust and safety in the government to
00:20:46
do what was right I think that is
not so much the case now we had
00:20:52
a big economic crisis here
in 2007 proof 2009 and polls
00:20:59
show that ever since then the trust that
Americans have in government to do the
00:21:04
right thing has eroded and I think that
has remained so we enter this crisis with
00:21:11
a lot less trust and faith in government
to do the right thing frankly and also it
00:21:16
has not helped that present from has said
things in the White House briefing room
00:21:22
that frankly aren't true about how there's
testing kits available for everyone in
00:21:29
the numbers are going down and so forth
so in terms of 1st thing the government
00:21:34
there are all kinds of reasons to support
the theory that people simply don't have
00:21:38
faith in the government to
do the right thing here in
00:21:42
a crisis like this that is
only getting bigger that is
00:21:45
a problem so I think that's something that
we have to keep in mind as well and also
00:21:50
just want to go back and
look at China just for
00:21:53
a 2nd where it has been reported in one.
On China that this virus originated and
00:22:00
there have been reports that China
is saying and blaming even the u.s.
00:22:04
For manufacturing this virus What do you
all thoughts on this yeah you know in
00:22:10
discussions about this being
00:22:12
a book bioengineered virus from the
very beginning and there been even some
00:22:17
prominent people including the u.s.
00:22:19
Senator. Theory in public that this was
00:22:24
a bioengineered this virus but he said
that it was trying to do it now is
00:22:31
saying among others that
it's something the u.s.
00:22:34
But you know you have
to think about this in
00:22:35
a logical way if you look at what this is
done to China's economy it's basically
00:22:42
delivered a blow to it
that it's going to take
00:22:44
a while to recover from and
really talk about what the u.s.
00:22:48
Is facing and this president is facing
00:22:52
a real lesson here than the way this is
going this isn't going well for him or for
00:22:57
the u.s.
00:22:58
For protecting them and I don't think that
anybody that leases anything or create
00:23:03
anything like this the current leases that
is going to do it without some kind of
00:23:08
consultation or some front to how it's
going to impact them personally at home
00:23:13
unless of course this term scientist
that nobody knows about I don't buy the
00:23:18
conspiracy theory piece what about you
Paul I mean if you look at all the damage
00:23:22
that has been done in China an awful lot
of people killed their economy taking just
00:23:28
a major hit over the past couple months
these kind of of viruses and pandemics have
00:23:34
been a part of human history going
back to the very beginning it was only
00:23:40
a century ago in fact that we had influenza
that killed millions of people around
00:23:46
the world and I've been talking to various
experts on these kind of saints who say
00:23:52
look even when we get a
grip on this on a buyer or
00:23:55
a Senate support to you know. That
vaccine they say is probably at least
00:24:00
a year away or perhaps even
the wall girl or a year and
00:24:03
a half because one date that they're talking
about we're going to be other viruses
00:24:08
and other pandemics that pop up from time
to time as well and some people fear in
00:24:13
fact they could be even worse than this one
if you can clip it so this theory that
00:24:19
you know some a mad scientist in
00:24:21
a lab did something and that got Pat of
hand if I could be blunt kind of crackpot
00:24:27
theories that pop up and they read around
the Internet and I'm sure there are
00:24:32
people who believe those kind of things but
I just don't think it's true what it's
00:24:36
estimated that the virus outbreak could
go on for as long as 18 months so if so
00:24:42
what what The New Normal be like and what
lessons have we learned so far from this
00:24:48
virus for instance I'm just looking at
00:24:50
a lot of the small businesses for example
did they really have back up business
00:24:55
plans to keep going in
00:24:56
a case like this or even families do they
have preparations at home family go bags
00:25:01
extra supplies at home so what lessons have
we learned quite think back to the time
00:25:06
in the 19 fifties and 1960 s.
00:25:09
When there were fears of nuclear war and
schoolchildren practiced ducking beneath
00:25:16
their desks those as if
that would be helpful in
00:25:19
a nuclear war but people bought on shelters
and put them in their backyard and they
00:25:24
stocked up on food and that kind of thing
I sense we're kind of going back to an
00:25:30
era where I think some sort of
00:25:33
a fear will quango over us rather like it
did back then I think this says kind of
00:25:40
shaken at least Americans out of whatever
00:25:43
a sense of complacency we may have had the
attacks of September 11th 2001 that j.j.
00:25:49
Was talking about also shook this out of
00:25:51
a complacency but that was 20 years ago and
I think this whole kind of. Do the same
00:25:58
thing I think
00:25:58
a lot of things that we've taken for granted
in the United States and I'm sure this
00:26:03
is true in Europe as well I'm not
sure we can take the kind of
00:26:07
a carefree lifestyle that we've always
assumed we would have I don't think we can
00:26:12
take that for granted
anymore and in terms of
00:26:15
a lot of small businesses know most of
them don't have a fallback plan for
00:26:20
a lot of businesses literally
survive a hand to mouth
00:26:24
a lot of them I think are going
to go under it's going to change
00:26:27
a lot of things about way we live and
play I think it's going to result in more
00:26:32
people telecommuting more people having
long distance education all sorts of things
00:26:38
that are going to change well that have
been changing and I think this crisis will
00:26:42
simply accelerate some of these
preexisting changes said
00:26:46
a how do you see the new normal Yeah Kim
what you said earlier about this perhaps
00:26:51
stretching out over maybe 18 months I
think spot on and what concept as well is
00:26:58
right down the middle on the
people not just here in the u.s.
00:27:01
But around the world probably
ought to look at the as
00:27:05
a long term scenario is based on what I've
heard from medical professionals from
00:27:10
intelligence officials and from corporate
experts as well and the interesting part
00:27:15
about this is that it comes most likely in
waves across this country at least it'll
00:27:21
probably happen in ways you
know it's not going to be
00:27:24
a 2 week scenario is not going to be too
much to their you know it's probably going
00:27:29
to happen in ways that is essential there
are many people may have had this and
00:27:32
didn't even know it you know the symptoms
are said to be mild to moderate amounts
00:27:36
from people but there are 205 that in
the us and we can think of this similar
00:27:43
to what we saw that during the 911 crisis
everything tends to that we were warned
00:27:49
about terrorism and some people ignored it
00:27:52
a lot of people acted on we've been
warned about a pandemic there's been
00:27:56
a movie made. People have sat there and
enjoyed the movie people have ignored the
00:28:01
warning that scientists and other people
talk about preparations and here we are
00:28:06
we're away now and this is what
we're going to have you know what
00:28:10
a days weeks months and
you know perhaps even
00:28:12
a year more than that we're not going
to be able to do the things that we did
00:28:17
before for
00:28:18
a good while so people should have those
plans and points they should also prepare
00:28:24
for what we don't know and have to do that
we do that by keeping your ears open and
00:28:28
your eyes open and remembering that this
whole business about hygiene is key
00:28:35
you know washing your hands and things
like there that stuff is he right now
00:28:40
especially when we deal with it so
people are going to have to pay
00:28:42
a lot more attention to not just what
they see went on but what they do out in
00:28:46
public and realize that this is going
to be a situation that may take quite
00:28:50
a while as well we're going to end our
program on that note I want to thank my 2
00:28:54
guests distinguished Washington journalist
Paul Brandis White House reporter for
00:28:59
West Wing reports and columnist for USA
Today and Jay Jay Green national security
00:29:04
correspondent for w t
00:29:06
o p and host of Target USA Thanks again for
your flexibility and for your thoughts
00:29:11
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00:29:15
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00:29:48
The science edition of Press
Conference USA here's your host battle
00:29:53
a. Welcome to the science edition of
Press Conference USA I'm Rick Banta Layo
00:30:00
on today's program we are going to talk
about what's on everyone's mind these days
00:30:05
the coronavirus pandemic that's sweeping
the world but before we get into our topic
00:30:10
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00:30:15
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Colvin 19 or coronavirus 2019 is the name of
00:31:02
the disease that's caused by
00:31:03
a novel or new corona virus that has never
before been detected in humans according
00:31:09
to the National Institutes
of Health coronaviruses are
00:31:12
a large family of viruses that usually
cause mild to moderate upper respiratory
00:31:18
tract illnesses like the common cold those
who have tested positive for Cove and 19
00:31:23
have ranged from having very mild symptoms
with some reporting no symptoms to those
00:31:28
severe with illnesses that result in death
concern over the spread of covert 19
00:31:33
continues to touch virtually every aspect
of daily life national regional and local
00:31:39
government leaders have put unprecedented
policies into effect to help mitigate the
00:31:44
spread of covert 19 the pan. Demigods
affecting the global economy throwing the
00:31:48
world's financial markets into
00:31:50
a period of extreme volatility and
uncertainty governments and international
00:31:55
organizations are planning to implement
significant measures to help offset the
00:31:59
potential economic impact of the pandemic
people are encouraged to practice
00:32:04
something called social distancing which
Johns Hopkins University defines as
00:32:09
a public health practice that prevents
sick people from coming into close contact
00:32:13
with healthy people to reduce opportunities
for disease transmission This means
00:32:17
that schools are closing with some offering
online education instead of classroom
00:32:22
education in many parts of the world scores
of restaurants and theaters have closed
00:32:27
their doors with New York's Broadway dimming
its lights until at least April 12th
00:32:32
major sporting events have been canceled
or postponed the world's religions have
00:32:36
been affected by the pandemic with many
closing their churches mosques synagogues
00:32:41
and temples to the public and offering
online or televised additions of their
00:32:46
religious services today will talk about
covert 19 the corona virus that causes it
00:32:52
what medical science is learning about it
efforts being made to mitigate the spread
00:32:56
of the disease and what we may expect in
the future my co-host for today's program
00:33:01
is v.o.a.
00:33:02
Health reporter Carole Pearson and our
featured guest for today's program is Dr
00:33:07
Thomas Frieden m.d.
00:33:09
Dr Frieden is an infectious disease and
public health physician he is currently
00:33:13
President and c.e.o.
00:33:15
Of resolve to save lives and initiative
that has been established to prevent
00:33:19
epidemics and cardiovascular disease
from 2009 to 2017 Dr Frieden served
00:33:26
as director of the Centers for Disease
Control and Prevention in Atlanta Georgia
00:33:31
and before that it was commissioner of
the New York City Health Department Dr
00:33:36
Frieden Can you please take us back to the
start of this cove in 1000 crisis how
00:33:41
did the virus develop and then initially
spread it back gale of hearing out. Is
00:33:46
that emerged in China around November
of last year and then spread ultimately
00:33:53
from Bath host through some intermediate
animal supposed possibly were probably to
00:34:00
what's called
00:34:00
a wet market or an market where exotic
animals are sold for food this is the same
00:34:06
way the stories virus spread 17 years earlier
from China no one is certain but what
00:34:12
is certain is that this is unprecedented
never before has there been
00:34:17
a brand new virus including Does this but
other than influenza and brand new virus
00:34:22
that has emerged in one part
of the world and become
00:34:25
a pandemic all over the world and yet there
are people who say that this virus was
00:34:31
manufactured in
00:34:32
a lab and then let loose it's one of the
rumors how do we know that that's not true
00:34:37
there are many rumors about viruses and I
feel that as with many different microbes
00:34:43
sunlight is the best disinfectant getting
information and making it clearly and
00:34:47
openly available will allow that kind of
rumor to be assessed there are genetic
00:34:53
fingerprint of the virus that according
to the viral exist who know this best
00:34:57
suggests that this is not an engineered
virus this is a naturally occurring virus
00:35:02
a very much like some would occur in nature
and this is how SARS spread in 2003 so
00:35:09
the weight of evidence now certainly
suggests that something like
00:35:13
a wet market from
00:35:14
a natural source in the way that this is
most likely to have spread if there are
00:35:19
other theories or concerns or have pocket
his Social be looked at openly and
00:35:23
transparently so that sunlight can disinfect
that you know I know no vaccines have
00:35:28
been developed at this point to prevent the
confection Dr Anthony Fauci says it may
00:35:33
be 18 months or so before one is available
for general distribution What are your
00:35:38
thoughts on that there are things that we
can do right now every one of us need to
00:35:43
wash our hands more cover our cost. Not
infect others if we get ticked and stop
00:35:49
shaking hands for
00:35:50
a while people who are medically vulnerable
older people what's underlying health
00:35:55
conditions where this is spreading in
the community really need to isolate
00:35:59
themselves from others to protect themselves
health care facilities need to learn
00:36:04
to surge safely that means improving Infection
Prevention and Control getting ready
00:36:10
to treat large numbers of people with just
mild illness and also getting ready to
00:36:17
veer situation to have to treat people
who need support for breathing with
00:36:21
ventilators or oxygen in society as
00:36:24
a whole we need to think about social
distancing and increasing that distance
00:36:30
between people canceling unnecessary meetings
and other large gatherings and making
00:36:36
sure that we continue to learn more about
this virus so we can do more about it one
00:36:41
thing is that we may have
00:36:43
a treatment in the market weeks or months
and that could occur and then it will be
00:36:48
a question of getting it to people back
seen development is very challenging and
00:36:53
though there are promising candidate that
seems we have no guarantee that I've got
00:36:58
the scene will become available and
if it does it will be at least
00:37:02
a year or 2 from that that we absolutely
have to do everything in our power to try
00:37:07
to get
00:37:07
a vaccine but we can't depend on it and
there's no certainty that we'll have it we
00:37:12
don't know that there will be
00:37:13
a safe and effective vaccine available
but we certainly hope that will be Dr
00:37:17
Frieden you mentioned the social
distancing and I understand
00:37:21
a number of people who are undergoing
self quarantine when you're talking about
00:37:24
both what kind of period of time are we
talking about how long the ship Yeah great
00:37:30
question we have no idea how long it will
continue in China they had hundreds of
00:37:36
millions of people stay home and they just
gradually would be opening the economy
00:37:42
and society right now they're doing such
extensive work. But it doesn't look like
00:37:47
outside of the province of the bay where
this started it doesn't look like there's
00:37:51
command
00:37:52
a virus so there people can go about
their business carefully and it's an arc
00:37:56
sponsored try to contain them but we don't
know what will happen in the future and
00:38:00
you want to do with confidence they know
what's going to happen with the spiders
00:38:04
doesn't know enough about this virus
there is one doctor at the University of
00:38:09
Maryland who looked at where the corona
virus was breaking out and the temperatures
00:38:15
of the regions where it was
breaking out and he just published
00:38:20
a study saying that in his opinion according
to the numbers he saw this should
00:38:26
mitigate it should kind of disappear as it
gets warmer in these regions do we know
00:38:32
a little bit more about this look we've
looked at that study and we don't find it
00:38:36
convincing hypotheses it could be
better and it gets warmer but that's
00:38:43
a guess there's no evidence to support that
gas this virus is new to the world and
00:38:48
when you look at influenza it behaves very
differently in tropical climates from
00:38:53
temperate climates in tropical climate it
spreads all year round so there's no flu
00:38:59
season but there's
00:39:00
a lot of new all year round and if we look
at other Karuna viruses other similar
00:39:05
viruses one of them at least has
00:39:07
a peak both in the winter and in the summer
so the only time we can hope for the
00:39:13
bad but more importantly we have to work
for the best and we have to plan for the
00:39:18
worst I'm talking gesture and that Africa
is in some way immune to this disease
00:39:23
which we've seen on social media is very
dangerous because there's no evidence that
00:39:28
that's the case and in fact we're beginning
to see that in Africa where they're
00:39:32
looking for it which is the case is that
this disease is more severe among older
00:39:37
people and so societies that have
00:39:39
a smaller proportion of people who are
elderly many have more difficulty
00:39:44
identifying it online. Did you catch them
why do some countries seem to have fewer
00:39:50
reported cases than others and how is
this possible there are several things
00:39:54
happening 1st this is spreading very
rapidly around the world but it's not
00:39:59
spreading evenly it's more in some places
I've been in others partly because travel
00:40:04
patterns and partly because of events that
may allow it to spread very widely as
00:40:10
happened in South Korea in one community
also in different parts of the country
00:40:16
there has been
00:40:17
a lot of different parts of the world so
when we look around the United States and
00:40:22
around the world we see
places that don't have
00:40:24
a lot of diagnosed cases some of these
places are looking and not finding and don't
00:40:29
have it yet others of them simply aren't
looking so we don't know yet but certainly
00:40:35
the camps in the United States today is
that anyone with severe pneumonia should be
00:40:40
tested for this so we can understand
what's happening we also need to really
00:40:45
protect congregate facilities places
like nursing homes where this can spread
00:40:49
explosively hospitals prisons homeless
shelters these are all the locations where I
00:40:55
didn't mean like this can really reach
havoc Dr Frieden you said that if you have
00:41:01
severe pneumonia you should be tested but
I had drifted to that by the time you
00:41:07
have severe pneumonia this virus has
damaged your lungs is that too late and
00:41:14
there's been a lot of confusion
about the testing here if
00:41:18
a community is trying to contain the virus
that is find every single infection and
00:41:22
stop them and testing is very important if
00:41:26
a community doesn't know that kind of virus
is there and testings very important to
00:41:31
find out when it comes in if some and ill
with Kareena there is it's very you know
00:41:36
it's important to test them so that they
can be cared for safely and rolled in
00:41:40
clinical trials and we can understand
more about the nature of this disease and
00:41:45
there are. Very important because Eve
detectives after the mirror large
00:41:49
investigations that need to be done in order
for us to learn more about the viruses
00:41:55
we can do more about it but in contrast in
00:41:59
a community where the virus is spreading
widely and it has become difficult or
00:42:05
impossible to find all of the chain the
transmission and testing has much more
00:42:10
limited role. Unfortunately I think the
situation in several communities of the
00:42:16
United States 'd now early on when it's
good when you try to find every case but
00:42:21
where it starts they can widely in the
community you have to devote your resources
00:42:25
to doing as much good as you can protecting
people as much as you can I had read
00:42:31
that some Taiwanese experts said if
you do this in the morning but take
00:42:35
a deep breath hold your breath for more
than 10 seconds and if you can do that
00:42:40
without coughing without discomfort without
stiffness or tightness in your chest
00:42:45
then there's no fibrosis in your
lungs and they also recommend taking
00:42:50
a few sips of water so your mouth and
breath stay moist and because if you don't
00:42:55
drink enough water the virus can enter
your windpipe and then get into your lungs
00:42:59
What do you recommend this
is well you know there's
00:43:02
a lot of rumor going on on the Internet I
think it's important that we focus on the
00:43:08
things that we have reasonable evidence
base are going to help wash your hands
00:43:13
regularly Tarver your mouth and nose when
you cough or sneeze and cover it with
00:43:18
crook of the elbow or with
00:43:20
a tissue to throw out don't go out if
you're sick or if you do go out and you're
00:43:24
sick where that stop shaking and don't go
to mass gatherings these are things that
00:43:31
we know are likely to be kept you on
to protect others if they're older my
00:43:38
mother was 90 on my advice use taking
long walks outside and walking
00:43:43
a lot of movies and reading books not in.
Reacting with others because in reading
00:43:48
of a community where she lives
Dr I'm curious how long does
00:43:52
a corona virus infection last how long
could we if someone is infected and is
00:43:57
displaying symptoms of the corona virus
how long can they expect to be under the
00:44:01
weather from the coronavirus it we happen
to China and elsewhere suggest that we're
00:44:06
not an adult and people who get an action
will have either no symptoms or mild
00:44:12
moderate symptoms and may feel better Mr
Lossing will 'd make your grab for as long
00:44:17
as
00:44:17
a few weeks with people with severe illness
or saying relatively long courses of what
00:44:23
we're seeing people get
sick aggressively over
00:44:27
a dog and Game 7 to 10 days and then they
stick to work 3 weeks and then recover
00:44:33
very grudgingly So who are
people for whom the severe it's
00:44:37
a long struggle to deal with it sounds
like a recovery time of pneumonia it is
00:44:43
a model of bottle. When all exhale all
the peace came in one of the long string
00:44:49
that bottle quite prominent place on
the pine to the Carter form Let's take
00:44:56
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00:45:01
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days now back to the science edition
00:45:51
of Press Conference USA Today
we're talking about covert 19
00:45:56
a corona virus that causes it what medical
science is learning about it efforts
00:46:00
being made to mitigate the spread of the
disease and what we may expect in the
00:46:05
future my co-host today is the away health
reporter Carol Pearson and our featured
00:46:10
guest is Dr Thomas Frieden m.d.
He is president and c.e.o.
00:46:15
Of resolve to save lives and initiative
that has been established to prevent
00:46:20
epidemics and cardiovascular disease Dr
Frieden previously served as director of
00:46:26
the Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention in Atlanta Georgia and as the
00:46:30
commissioner of the New York City Health
Department Dr Frieden I'm curious to know
00:46:35
how cool that 19 especially the more serious
cases is being treated in hospitals
00:46:40
and other medical facilities Well 1st and
foremost you need to be treated safely
00:46:46
every patient coming in with cough or.
Shortness of breath need to be isolated
00:46:53
and we need to ensure the health care workers
are protected from getting infections
00:46:58
2nd we need to make sure that care is as
effective as possible and right not with
00:47:05
what's called supportive care or encouraging
people to do whatever possible to
00:47:12
support the breathing patients who have
severe pneumonia and that may mean
00:47:16
supplemental oxygen that
may mean ECMO which is
00:47:20
a way of action eating the
blood or putting someone on
00:47:24
a ventilator this is something which in
many low and middle income countries isn't
00:47:29
widely available and even in the
most advanced cities in the world
00:47:34
a bad outbreak of coronavirus could overwhelm
capacities health care facilities to
00:47:40
provide that later support the
people 'd who actually the u.s.
00:47:46
Is. About 2 weeks behind Europe which is
the current area where it's spreading
00:47:52
rapidly just the closeness of where people
live in Europe and that man thinking of
00:47:59
Italy we've seen pictures of people singing
from their balconies does that have any
00:48:04
impact on how easily the virus can spread
what we've seen is mass gatherings
00:48:11
being potential places where lots of
people can spread and we still don't know
00:48:17
a lot about the patterns it spread but
certainly when people have lived together
00:48:22
and mixing closely there's
00:48:24
a potential event that spread that's why
it's so important that people who have
00:48:29
coughs or Steve knocked out
and they go out to get
00:48:33
a hospital do so safely covering their mouth
and know Dr Frieden we've been talking
00:48:40
a little bit about at least Carol when
you have bench and at the nightmarish
00:48:44
condition in Italy how did things get so
out of hand so quickly one of the really
00:48:49
striking features about
coronavirus is how rapidly. With
00:48:56
colleagues we've recently reviewed the
evidence and will be publishing it this week
00:49:00
on what are called super spreading. And in
those events large numbers of people get
00:49:07
infected in these 2
00:49:09
a period of time and what we find is that
to prevent those events you really need
00:49:15
to act very vigorously within about
one week in order to limit the damage
00:49:22
and it doesn't help like in the United
States schools are closing people the
00:49:28
federal government for the most part is
now teleworking Are these the sorts of
00:49:33
things that will buy you some time there
are certain things that certainly make
00:49:38
sounds kind of working reducing mass
gatherings going to tell me things schools are
00:49:45
a much more competent. Good issue although
there are things even if the bill passed
00:49:49
for the clues to schools it's not necessarily
going to have the thin impact this is
00:49:56
because although children get infected
with this virus it's not new news based
00:50:02
credit to add to this is
00:50:03
a different influenza we conclude and kids
are an important source explained at the
00:50:10
famous into song and if
you click a schools for
00:50:13
a couple of months you may be able to knock
down the number of cases of influenza
00:50:18
by as much as 40 percent but we don't
know whether about the case here with
00:50:25
coronavirus and for all of these
steps what's key is to balance the
00:50:32
projected cost not just economic but also
societal against the potential health
00:50:38
benefits of taking that action so while
there are schools closing that may not
00:50:44
always be indicated for maximally effective
to protect society and of course
00:50:50
schools have many. Important social
functions in addition to education and when
00:50:56
kids are out often their. Parents can't
work so there are lots of things to
00:51:02
consider with this and it's really an
explanation of cost estimates for example Dr
00:51:08
Frieden going to ask you your personal
opinion here what is your reaction to the
00:51:13
public health response to this pandemic
misses on precedents. Other than the flu in
00:51:19
that which spreads each
year we've never seen
00:51:23
a new virus emerge and then spread around
the world it has already been more
00:51:30
destructive than any infectious disease
event since the 19181919 influenza
00:51:36
pandemic so the most destructive
infectious read event in more than
00:51:42
a 100 years. One of the things that I wish
we would do more and I hope that we do
00:51:49
more very quickly is to learn
more about how the virus spreads
00:51:56
whether it's spreads from children and
asymptomatic people what works best to
00:52:02
protect health care workers so that we
can target our interventions and the as
00:52:07
effective as possible and are the steps
that means that public health departments
00:52:13
need to be in the lead on the response
figuring out what works communicating that
00:52:19
effectively with the public and doing
investigations so that we can learn more good
00:52:26
more practical Dr Frieden you've mentioned
the 1918 flu epidemic have we learned
00:52:31
any lessons from that that we're applying
to this current pandemic there has been
00:52:35
a lot of planning around and Demick how to
address them how to mitigate the impact
00:52:43
and that's the playbook that many groups
and countries are now using to respond to
00:52:49
that coded 19 pandemic so that planning has
been very helpful but every infectious
00:52:55
disease is going to be
different and requires
00:52:57
a different approach and that's why getting
information as quickly as possible and
00:53:01
using that information to track people is
so critically important this it corroded
00:53:07
virus the novel one is very similar I
understand to the SARS coronavirus
00:53:14
that broke out again in China some
years ago could this possibly be just
00:53:19
a mutation of that. This has some relation
to the starting fires but it's not that
00:53:26
closely related in the
sense than it is not
00:53:29
a descendent of that there is what we know
is that coded is both more infectious
00:53:36
and less deadly than the stars as we don't
know how much more in taxes and how much
00:53:42
less deadly it can the same family unlike
SARS it doesn't look like we're going to
00:53:48
be able to stop this and make it go away
forever so we need to figure out how to
00:53:52
manage it how to mitigate and reduce the
harm that causes house societal harms
00:53:59
Dr Frieden like covert 19 the 1st reported
case of SARS was reported in November in
00:54:05
2002 to the w.h.o.
00:54:08
Have announced that it had been contained
by chill live 2003 do you think the world
00:54:13
health officials will be able to contain
coded 19 within the same period and that's
00:54:18
when you think it will peak. I well I think
no one can predict when with the heat
00:54:25
but it doesn't look like
containment that is getting it
00:54:32
compute plea hours of society may
not be possible it has spread
00:54:39
so widely with so many chains of transmission
that unlike SARS coded looks like it
00:54:45
may not be able to be seen at this point
so we're going to have to do whatever we
00:54:51
can to reduce the impact on societies
particularly societies which have limited
00:54:58
health services to protect
00:54:59
a child services that we can reduce the
societal harms and also reduce the risk
00:55:06
that other core health they get this
will get disrupted children need to get
00:55:11
vaccinated women need to get reproductive
health care people with chronic pain even
00:55:16
need to get them treated people who have
close trash with another injury need to
00:55:20
have them attended to all of those things
need to continue want told it is with us
00:55:25
I was talking to a doctor at the u.s.
00:55:28
Food and Drug Administration and she was
saying that she would like to see you know
00:55:34
. Testing for like 10000
people on a random basis in
00:55:40
a particular community just to see because
we don't know how widespread this virus
00:55:46
is we don't know who has it but doesn't
show symptoms who has it but the symptoms
00:55:52
are so mild they don't even notice do you
think that that would be helpful at all.
00:55:58
There are
00:55:58
a few epidemiologic investigations that are
very much one of them is to test people
00:56:05
with what is known as flu like illness
or prove that there are surveillance
00:56:11
networks for you to learn to like illness
in. More than $100.00 countries around
00:56:17
the world and those networks need to be
in our being and we per page to track the
00:56:22
cause of that 2nd. People who are
severely ill with hospitalization
00:56:30
need to be tested for coated to see if
they've got it and 3rd we need to do
00:56:36
special study studies
that. Will. Determine
00:56:43
things like how widely it's betting whether
they're in symptomatic cases I remember
00:56:48
we don't yet have
00:56:49
a blood test only test we have for
it. Through the merits of the Go
00:56:56
feelings or swab that test is not 100
percent accurate there are false negatives
00:57:02
so we need to look very carefully to see
what happens here Dr Frieden we're almost
00:57:08
out of time is there anything specific that
you want to tell our audience about the
00:57:13
epidemic this is
00:57:15
a severe pandemic and it's frightening
but it's important to remember that most
00:57:20
people who get Cobra will do well each 90
percent of those infected have mild to
00:57:26
moderate you know symptoms. It will be
hard to many people Webster illness and
00:57:31
tragically too many who died and although
the coronavirus and Democrats certainly
00:57:38
get worse before it gets better it will
get better and even in the worst of the
00:57:44
pandemic many people and no one knows what
portion will get infected and those who
00:57:49
do get infected 99 out of 100. So it's
responsible and important to be proactive
00:57:56
now and limit the harms of called Good
Night but it's also good to keep in mind
00:58:01
that this flu will par Dr Frieden I want
to thank you so very much for taking time
00:58:06
out of your busy schedule to talk with us
and share your wonderful insights into
00:58:10
this pandemic thank you very much. And
I'm afraid that's all the time we have
00:58:17
for this science edition of Press Conference
USA My guest was Dr Thomas Frieden
00:58:23
m.d. President and c.e.o.
00:58:25
Of resolve to save lives and initiative
that has been established to prevent
00:58:30
epidemics and cardiovascular disease he
was also the director of the Centers for
00:58:35
Disease Control and Prevention and
commissioner of the New York City Health
00:58:39
Department I'd like to thank my colleague
and co-host for this program the away
00:58:43
health reporter Carole Pearson the science
edition of Press Conference USA was
00:58:48
produced in Washington our studio technician
today was and. I'm Rick thanking you
00:58:55
once again for listening and for understanding
our programming limitations due to
00:59:00
the coronavirus time to you our dear
listeners please take care. And stay healthy
00:59:07
and please join Carole Castillo again next
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00:59:13
The Voice of America.
00:59:48
This is the deal with. This President
Trump says there's no need right now
00:59:55
for a national shutdown even as another state
orders its residents to stay home a.p.
01:00:01
Correspondent Saager Magon
01:00:02
a New Jersey governor Phil Murphy says it
pains him but he's telling all 9000000
01:00:07
residents not to go out California New York
and Illinois among others have done the
01:00:12
same and Murphy's urging other governors
to follow suit we cannot run the risk of
01:00:18
residents from one state simply moving
their parties or their shopping habits
01:00:23
across state lines the trumpet ministrations
been knocking down Facebook posts and
01:00:28
text messages that
01:00:29
a national Corin teen is coming the president
says States and Middle America may
01:00:34
only have a few cases and don't
need to lock down it may be
01:00:37
a time I hope that never happens where
we need to take very drastic action but
01:00:42
right now that's not in the same ballpark
solderer Megami Washington negotiators
01:00:47
from Congress and the White House resume
top level talks Saturday on the ballooning
01:00:52
one trillion dollar plus economic rescue
package the Senate conveyed to the rear
01:00:59
week in session with the aim of drafting
the package Saturday holding an initial
01:01:03
vote Sunday and winning Senate passage on
Monday Majority Leader Mitch McConnell
01:01:09
said everyone must act in the
country's best interest Marla being
01:01:13
a laid off every day more small businesses
are being forced to showed payroll every
01:01:18
day. Are nurses and doctors
are running lower on k.
01:01:22
Supply. Every day. Treasury
secretary Steve Minuit began
01:01:29
negotiations with McConnell Senate
Democratic leader Chuck Schumer and senators
01:01:35
from both parties using McConnell's g.o.p.
01:01:38
Offer as
01:01:38
a starting point the prime minister Decepticon
today said Saturday that all Italian
01:01:43
businesses must close until April 3rd
with the exception of those essential to
01:01:47
maintaining the country supply
chain this is the u.a.e.
01:01:50
News air raid sirens sounded
in Jordan and Iraq.
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