did will some convincing -- did wilson convince him of this, or is wilson shaping it? dr. manela: that is a great question. it reminds me i need to emphasize, i am making no claim that wilson was an original political thinker and the ideas i described were original to him. this is not the case at all. he was reflecting a fairly broad sensibility among americans, progressive says we would call them at the time. what makes wilson stand out is of course he had a great deal more power than these other individuals, particularly in 1919 when he comes to power, as we see in the mural upstairs. he is at the center of everything. germans want armistice, so they go to wilson. they don't go to the french. it is his power that distinguishes him, rather than his ideas. he is in the best place to put these ideas into implementation. kind of ar does is difference between humanitarian aid and political change. hoover is worried about revolution and he says we will feed these people, and we will stem the tide of revolution temporarily. i am not saying that wilson is a better thinker than h

one reason wilson kept the u.s. out of war for the first nearly three years was he believed that the czar was on the wrong side of history. was also white when the revolution replaced the czar with a provisional government that seemed to fit a reformist mold, wilson recognized the new government within a week, the first major nation to do so. this change in the russian government, and this is after butremoval of the czar before the bolshevik revolution, this played a role in the decision to take them into the war the coming month. gone, the allies became less tainted by the stain of autocracy. you may ask what about the and they arerench oversea empires? overseas empires? we will get to that a bit later. in any case, the bolshevik takeover of russia in 1917 both change the calculus and approved wilson that he was in fact right. wilson knew little of london but he knew enough to not have any sympathy for his program. -- lenin, but he knew enough not to have any sympathy for his program. he represented concentrated po

i have concerns about jug wilson's -- judge wilson's temperament. in an op-ed he linked president obama to "a for throwing teenager." -throwing teenager." in between t cap public even while serving as a state court judge, judge wilson called hillary clinton crooked hillary and said she was "criminal and clueless." he also called congresswoman alexandria because of cortez -- claptrap.tez a i will ask about these and other aspects of his record, but i find it regrettable the committee is proceeding on this nomination. thank you, mr. chairman. judge wilson entered private practice after his clerkship. commercial disputes, regulatory compliance, intellectual property and securities, insurance defense, and assorted tort claims. his practice with numerous law firms both large and small, trying four cases to verdict in 2005. he served as a white house fellow. he continued at the department of defense. deputy secretary of state and counsel to the mississippi state treasurer. working in the state executive branch, he won election to the mississippi legislatu

robert wilson he trusts his images. with their trust and language and translated the bible from greek into german. production plays with luther's language his translations and writings. some of the text sorry cited in the original greek by the actress lydia corny onto who is currently the greek culture minister. says. that the entire creative team is international. it's been a long a buy for me as i've been involved in developing the project from the start that's why they called us else the creative team because we work together and each person contributes ideas which have been developed because it all of course subordinate to the basic idea that bob had and what the ideas inspiring him along with so i fired . the old master of images is still full of inspiration and the ideas are perfected step by step. for wilson every movement every posture has to be just trying to eat the. stuff to read. on the floor here or there. or basically it's an enormous jigsaw puzzle that robert wilson has constructing. in all my works i dia

wilson clearly defines the arrangement of the death bed. in particular the arrangement of the blanket and the precisely determined folding of the sheet have to be practiced by the assistants so that it looks exactly the same at each performance. so we know we're going we're here because they are. getting hit the a bit was that it was. a huge knock in so all right and i am very fond of him because he is such a loving welcome he is but he's not sloppy he is absolutely precise i think precision and not arbitrary ness is an aspect of every form of hot and believe he could. keep playing. evolution. and just. leave it when performed this death scene takes 12 minutes. it begins with a quotation from luther about children their innocence joy and purity as. i. am. i. was. the heir to. a bit. martin luther for me is a point in time and. you have different points and different eras and which change happens and. so i see him as something more abstract. as it's a point in time where things have changed their lives i am. the stylized housewife and the fi

isabella and wilson are both based in hong kong i know is in beijing wilson out on the streets out and about today through the weekend up to me what is it been like what's been happening on the streets. but we've missed seeing a lot of protests out on the streets and a lot of these are just ordinary people so 'd we've seen a lot of school children out we've seen a lot of elderly people we've seen in the above professionals out on the street and that's been met by a pretty harsh. police response so just today we have over 650 arrests we saw schoolchildren being rounded up into police vans or elderly people being pepper sprayed 'd and similar thing happened over the weekend where there was about 250 arrests so there's been an attempt to protest 'd people phone call but that's not crackdown quite harshly by fully cute right police was in there was wilson the event was very this is a very choreographed event what you have here are the school children elderly and you know this the protests are not something that happens generically i mean they've also picked up people who've had bombs and c

where as wilson looked more of the same. part of it comes more of how you view the past two or the old phrase the further you look back the further you look forward. it is a different definition of what they see when they look back >> you know the difference is about germany and how they understood the conflict and how for example clemency so views idealism. one of the things people always brings up about of a will sony and perspective. is it's idealism beyond wilson is there any on the french of britain and british side, is there any real sense that democracy in germany, and the fact that the kaiser had been forced out, germany in 1918 and 1919 has become a republic, or is in the process -- i mean a republic. so that, you think that might for wilson, be a signal that yes the, the german people are trying to step up and move past an older authoritarianism, and the british and french side who had been in the war much earlier. much of it is devastated in france. the weariness, the suspicion would be significantly deeper about

two wilson, it looks like more of the same. part of it comes from an understanding of how you view the past. it is a different definition of what they see when they look backwards. also, the differences about germany and how they understood the forces of the the frenchd how leader views wilson's idealism. it's what so many people bring up about that will sony and -- wilsonian perspective. the idealism, beyond wilson, is real sense that democracy in germany, the fact that the kaiser had been forced out, germany has become a republic or is in the process of becoming a republic. you think that might be a signal for wilson be a signal that the german people are trying to step up and move past authoritarianism. the british and the french side have been in the war much earlier, much of northern france is devastated, that the wariness and the suspicion would be deeper about germany, and not at all convinced, just because we have this man running germany, that they really has not been much change. that is one of the things that one to

really from people here see i know you sitting in beijing and wilson is. in hong kong do you detect a difference of opinion coming through beijing compared to the people who are living in hong kong. oh absolutely i mean they don't understand it hong kong doesn't for instance it doesn't pay taxes to the mainland and fact it's the other way around money goes to hong kong not $1.00 penny of tax from hong kong goes and into the city and they've been able to maintain a very very generous tax. you know great in hong kong which is attracted a lot of people but you know this idea that somehow people are being rounded up on the streets at random yeah i think that you know both both isabel and wilson want it better that not true you have to be careful about people not knowing where things are happening and beings like that so much obviously without if you're sound in it with that character and. not show up in greece i have 'd quite a fun friends who live in hong kong and they eat chips actually took went down and took pictures of them and we were discussing it today

wilson, how do you respond? >> that is josh hollies opening4 gamut for his 2020 presidentialg campaign. cohent is an ambitious man. vot tryinger to seize the control of the trump narrative for the future. he understands that almost said there wasle i either a wild exaggeration or an outright lie. thisive whole idea that there t a conspiracy was not present in the evidence. there wereeficitit war --ts in the fisa governmental process, they were not material to the actual pursuit of the fact that the russians were doing everything they could to get involved with the trump campaign. the trump campaign is willing to listen to them. they ended up putting themselves as a target. itis wasnst not a conspiracy against donald trump because if it was a real conspiracy against donald trump by and a ferry is powerful deep state it would havend worked. the evidence that josh presentse isnvir very flimsy but that is l it needs and the sort of trumpmp environment. the trump mediare circus only requires that you go out andio say

to wilson, his solutions look like more of the same. part of it comes from an understanding of how you view the past. the further you look back, the further you can look forward. it's a different definition of what they see when they look backwards. >> you noted the differences about germany and how they understood the sources of the conflict and how, for example, the french deal wilson's idealism. it's one of the things that's brought up about that kind of perspective. it's idealism. beyond wilson, is there any real sense on the french and british side that democracy in germany and the fact that the kizer was forced out -- germany in 1919 is in the process of becoming a republic. so, you think that might for wilson by a signal that, yes, the german people are trying to step up and move past an older a regime. you would think the wariness of france would be deeper about germany and not convinced that because we have someone now running germany -- that there really hasn't been much change. on the british and french side is there much, yo

points did the tensions between wilson and clemenceau and lloyd george already begin to emerge about a national versus an international framework. how to deal with germany. the fact that germany was defeated. germany is not occupied in 1918, 1919. how to deal with that. we will come back with the question of the bolsheviks. but in this case, they were very questions about how that could the apiece. prof. neiberg: sure. godon in 14 point said that was content to give us 10 commandments. lloyd george was asked to performance in the house of commons and he said, i don't think i did some bad considering i have napoleon on -- ande in jesus christ jesus christ himself on the other. so there is tension. so there's that problem. also what fundamentally caused the war. if you are clemenceau, it is the aggression. there's something inherent in the german character and remember, clemens so was the mayor of one of the paris neighborhoods. the problem is there is something different about germany you have to deal with. in lloyd george's mind, it was simply that george -- that it grew too fast. so

>> detective wilson had discovered something else. ellen had actually tried to purchase another gun at a local pawnshop one month earlier. she was turned down after a routine background check. >> you couldn't? what happened? >> it was a fraud charge. >> what did you do? >> i was working for a company that i wrote a check on. >> reporter: it turns out in the late '80s ellen pled guilty to embezzlement. the charges were dropped after her probation. suddenly her skeletons were starting to see the light of day. while detective wilson was doing his investigative work, mike's sister, terri, a schoolteacher, was doing hers. she told the detective about a second home mortgage that ellen took out, terri claims, without mike's knowledge. >> we actually have a copy of that document of the second mortgage. and it is clear live not my brother's signature on either line. >> that's true, ellen says. she did sign mike's name. but says mike knew all about it. the more terri thought about mike, the more she remembered his growing frustration with ellen

wilson-clemenceau solution appears to be the same. jason: you understand the differences of germany and how they understood the conflict and clemenceau'siews idealism. that is one thing people always bring up about the wilsonian perspective. on the french and british side, is there any real sense that there is democracy, the fact that the kaiser had been forced out, is there any sense in 1918-19 that germany is becoming a republic? you think that might be a signal for wilson that the german people are trying to step up and move past authoritarianism. the british and the french side andthe british and the french side have been in the war much earlier, northern france, much of it devastated that the , wariness and the suspicion would be deeper than germany. that weat all convinced have someone running germany instead of wilhelm the second and ludendorff, that there really hasn't been much change. that is something i wanted to add. on the british and french side, is there much interest at all in the fact that germany seems to be transiti

they don't want to do what wilson had to do. there is going to be no set reparations so we can adjust whatever we have to do economically as we go, and we are going to have three parties represented. the whole world is not going to come. france doesn't calm, poland doesn't calm. just three countries. it is done differently than the way they did it at versailles. we know now it is a more positive outcome, though i think we sometimes underestimate how chaotic the road was in 1945 and how lucky europe got at the end of the war . jason: we were just talking about there is really three that are just there. we could easily simply focus on truman and stalin, and they are hugely important. in the british case, if we think about lloyd george just faced with an election in 1918 when he was at versailles and what he thought was expected of them, in the british case, they have an election in the summer of 1945 where churchill is out and labor is in. and labour britain had been a world power for so long and is now faced with a situation wher

woodrow wilson has a ph.d. from johns hopkins. he is the president of pressed princeton before he becomes the governor of new jersey and the president of the united states. what is bothering them? will review this and i think you know what many of these things are. we can talk about a few of the motivations in terms of fears. fears of new capitalism. as companies grow larger and larger and capitalism becomes more and more impersonal, i'm talking really fast, i will step back and have you think about that. think about a 19th century world where your neighbor might have chickens in her yard to sell eggs. you know her. her eggs are not going to be rotten because she does not want to rip you off because you have a face relationship. or you are a farmer that goes to the local grain elevator. you know that operator. you are not selling at a fixed rate across hundreds of miles on the southern pacific railroad. where you have to pay a certain rate and you cannot negotiate. you don't know who you're seller is. i think we take for granted g

largely because of wilson's upper -- opposition it was rejected. was this supported by black american leaders or was this strictly a japanese initiative? >> that is a good question. you begin to see a growing relationship between african-americans and japan. you are really going back to the japanese-russo war and this idea of japan as part of a darker ofld, and emerging world nations which is going to challenge europe and european supremacy. so there were certainly african-american support for that racially quality clause, and certainly during the thatwar period, we see how relationship and -- evolved in different ways. >> ladies and gentlemen, will you please join me in thanking dr. chad williams. [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2020] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> you are watching american history tv with event coverage, eyewitness accounts, archival films, lectures and college classrooms and visits to museums

host: reid wilson. guest: one thing that has struck me about the downturn here, the economic downturn is how different it is from the last recession. , people recession hit at the top, first. lehman brothers collapsing, things like that. impact trickled down to everybody else in the workforce and it was those everyone else who took so long to recover. it was only in the last six months or so that we served to see those at the bottom experiencing real wage growth for the first time since the recession and basically the onus being on employers to provide higher salaries and better jobs because employees had so many options for where they could go. this downturn has targeted those very people who had just finished recovering from the last recession first and immediately. something like 40% of low-wage workers are out of work. that is in the space of two months. to her point about people need to have money in the bank to take care of themselves, this targeted the people who are least likely to have that mon

so, again, i mentioned the woodrow wilson house. when wilson left the white house on march 4th, 1921, he actually had a wine collection. and he did not want to leave it behind because his successor warren harding was a known heavy drinker and kind of a party boy. so he got -- wilson got a permit from the prohibition bureau to transport his wine collection -- and by the way, during prohibition, if you had alcohol in your possession before prohibition started, that was yours to keep. they weren't going to take away from you. so personal possession was not outlawed during prohibition. but you couldn't manufacture, sell, or transport it. so in this case here wilson had to get special permission to transport his alcohol from the white house over to his new house over in kalorama on s street. and he got that permit approved. and we have a prohibition tour at the woodrow wilson house that i lead sometimes. at the end of the tour we go down and see the prohibition era wine cellar. it's really unique. it's like how many other houses in the c

and so he so irritates woodrow wilson that woodrow wilson has his privileges as an ambassador revoked. how timely with our current news, right? you don't behave, you lose your office. but on his way out, dublinski knew exactly how to annoy americans. what the african-american press said to that dublinski pressed on america's cancer spot, and that was that he said, how dare you, americans, who claim to be neutral, judge we ottomans about how we treat our minorities, given how you treat your own minorities. native americans, african-americans. so until you stop segregation, you have no business telling us about being violent or how to control our minorities. and in order to ensure having lost his ambassadorship, that he left woodrow wilson on the brink of a complete conniption, dublinski was photographed in black churches in d.c., praying and singing with african-americans, and talking about how their plight and their suffering really helped him understand who americans truly were, despite their browbeating all over the world, as purported neutrals, who were also morally superior. so wh

ruth wilson gilmore: thank you naomi. and think everybody from tuning turning in from all over the world. i think i want to leave us with a sentence that i have been repeating for many years that involve repetition and that is life is precious, life is precious. so straightforward and makes me think about what it takes to make life precious. and that making life precious, arises to all different kinds of struggles so their strikes, but i also want to leave off with something that i learned just recently. and this is my last thing. and that is the art. that person, i know who was recently released tells me that they and other people in their immediate area in the present is singing a lot. they were singing and it was bringing them a sense of being in the world they didn't have before. and that reminded me of the freedom writers who got locked up in systems and other places who sang themselves through a terrifying time. so we shall overcome but only by building art movement. thank you. >> tonight about tv, former chair is i

have a great night. >> rick wilson gets tonight's last word. "the 11th hour" with brian williams starts now. >>> well, good evening on this day 1,202 of the trump administration. six months to our presidential election, now 182 days away. there's a developing story we wanted to give you a heads-up on tonight. justice ruth bader ginsburg hospitalized at johns hopkins for nonsurgical treatment of a benign gallbladder condition this afternoon. the justice, who is 87, is said to be resting comfortably. she's expected to take part in the court's teleconference arguments tomorrow. we'll have more on that story coming up. >>> tonight

anyone who voted for wilson or roosevelt is a progressive. george traces to woodrow wilson, the questioning of the separation of powers, the birth of the imperial presidency, the rise of demagoguery. lots of conservatives and libertarians blame it all on wilson. that is a tough series of critics to have from both sides. susan: related to that, maybe for you to start on this, to -- do shifting cultural views impact the ways historians rate presidents? michael: absolutely. part, because we are all embedded in culture. we are all bound by culture. presidents as well. they can try and break a lot of things, but they can't recount of their culture. they might be able to change the culture. lincoln's vision encompasses, let's change our culture by getting rid of slavery. let's break the chain so to speak and begin a different way of thinking. then, unfortunately he died. i think culture is critical for a president because it defines the context in which they operate. susan: will take about 10 more minutes with questions. anybody wants to tackle thi

wilson crisscrossed the country by rail, delivering one speech after another, the effort almost killed him. >> it's easy to think, okay, presidents are always barn storming, going around the country talking to the people. >> reporter: she is professor of american history at harvard university. >> to campaign on your own behalf was considered undignified well through the 19th century. so even just going around the country was a novelty. >> reporter: in effect, wilson was going door to door, but he had none of the tools that would amplify the campaigns of future presidents. not that warren harding recognized radio's potential. as for calvin coolage, they didn't call him silent cal for nothing. herbert hoover? no, he never got the hang of radio either. that was left for franklin roosevelt and those famous fire side chats. >> this bank holiday, while resulting in many cases in great inconvenience, is affording us the opportunity to supply the currency necessary to meet the situation. >> and he's explaining to the american people he's about to shutdown the banking system. there is an incred

they came from the wilson center. one of the soviet documents that we now have access to was translated -- a transited and a four report by the commander of the soviet air division that was sent to engage during the korean war. that included figures, and internal report, for accounting purposes in the soviet military bureaucracy. the reported soviet aircrews, which entered in november 1950 and state active through the end of the war, shut down 1097 enemy aircraft during the war. enemy being american aircraft. they suffer 319 soviet aircraft and 110 pilots that were killed. the missions they were flying to burn -- were to protect bridges that spanned the river that divides china from north korea. the airfields in that area and hydroelectric stations as well. this was not just for a couple of weeks. this was a sustained operation for a few years. this included specific messages about the logistics of doing a covert military intervention. one of the documents that came from the wilson center collection was a cable that w

wilson's proposal to make liberty more efficient is through bureaucracy. they don't think that's a paradox. they believe in good government, right? okay. that brings me to the last big picture point i want to make. progressives are not radicals. it's important to recognize that progressivism was a form -- i'm sorry, was a set of reform movements, not radical movements, right? in fact, in a certain sense, progressivism was actually conservative, in the sense that progressives wanted to perfect something they think already expected, right? they were ultimately optimists and perfectionists who believed you could perfect society with enough planning and careful organization, right? we can see that many progressives saw progressivism as a way to stem radicalism, right? to cut increasingly popular radical movements off at the needs by decreasing their need by solving the obvious social problems that socialists, anarchists and communists were beginning to name and address, right? so, roosevelt and wilson, although they disagree on many things, are saying let's re

he so irritates woodrow wilson that woodrow wilson has his privileges as an ambassador revoked. how timely with our current news. if you don't behave, you're on your way out. he knew exactly how to annoy americans. but the african-american press said dublinksi pressed on america's spot. -- native americans, african americans. until you stop segregation, you have no business about being violent or how to control our minorities. he left woodrow wilson on the brink of a complete connection. there were photos of him praying and singing with african-americans and talking about how their plight and suffering were handled. what we see in the case of the united states is that the question of race will already be part of this diplomatic tug-of-war. the germans will do the same. it will return. in the united states, what we get from the very beginning of the war are a lot of the same kinds of concerns that had been weighing heavily on european empires that we had been talking about. what were some of those concerns? that their own countries were full of dissidents who could set the place

host: reid wilson, your thoughts on that? guest: that is a good point and something that public health officials know about and have been paying a lot of attention to. a very smart woman at the world health organization calls this the infodemic, it happens every time there is an epidemic. mids -- misinformation gets out there as broadly as possible and in some cases it can be damaging but not deadly. --ebody seeking treatment seeking the wrong kind of medicine or something like that. somebody here is that essential oils can solve something when they can't or something like that. in other cases, it can be massively destructive to the response, to health care workers and things like that. is an ebola outbreak that is winding down in the democratic republic of congo. they are beset by ethnic violence and have been for decades. saw which was like six months ago, there have been 200 attacks on health care workers and health facilities because there were rumors that they are bringing the ebola virus to congo. people have died becau

i mentioned the woodrow wilson house. when woodrow wilson left the white house in 21, he had a wine collection that he didn't want to leave behind. his successor was a hard drinker and party boy. so wilson got a permit from the prohibition bureau to transport is one collection. by the way, during prohibition if you had wine in your possession before prohibition started that's yours to keep, they're not gonna take it away from you. so personal possession was not out lot during prohibition. but you couldn't manufacture, cell, or transport. so in this case woodrow wilson had a special permission to transport alcohol from is old house to his new house. he had the permit approved, come by the woodrow wilson house, i have a prohibition tour that i sometimes lead. at the end we see the prohibition era wine cellar. very, unique how many other houses in the area have original bottles. it's amazing. look at the short battle in the center. that is quantro the packaging has barely changed. the french ambassador's house at a lot of th

wilson --f woodrow [laughter] perhaps he should have thought a little more carefully about his words on the evening of april 2, 1917, as he spoke before the congress and issued a declaration of war against germany. we all know the words. in his speech, he proclaimed the world must be made safe for democracy. a champion of of the rights of mankind and we shall be satisfied when those rights been made as secure as the fate and freedom and nations can make them. perhaps more than any other group, african-americans seized on the blatant hypocrisy of his pledge and appropriated democracy as a rhetorical and ideological weapon in the cause of racial equality. by framing the war as a struggle of the future of global democracy, wilson created the ideological terrain for the emergence of the new negro, both in the united states. black people would face a war for democratic rights and humanity on american soil. before the first trips set foot on french soil. july 2, 1917 massacre in east st. louis, hundreds of african-americans, men, women, children were really slaughtered . the naacp organize

president woodrow wilson declared enough is enough. on april 2nd 1917 he went before congress and asked to declare war and congress promptly did so. wilson picked general john j pershing to lead the u.s. troops. pershing arrived in france and declared famously, lafayette we are here and by mid 1918, sent 2 million american troops that were in europe. they fought bravely, they help to win the war. swiftly, the armistice came, which was really a german surrender. it was greeted with tremendous fervor here and all the warring countries. ticker tape parades welcome to the american troops home. general pershing was greeted as a great hero. that is where the chapter on world war one and so many american history textbooks ends. the countries at peace, the next chapter of american history begins. the 1920s, flappers, prohibitions, speakeasies, babe ruth, the model t ford and so on. but this skips over a great deal. i want to go back and look at the war years more closely, and then at the two years that followed the so-called peace. from the mo

prefers wilson to roosevelt. and then reporters see him on the campaign trail after he's denounced roosevelt and says roosevelt is my closest friend and convulses in tears and it's an incredible drama. they do make up before roosevelt dies. they run into each other by accident in a hotel dining room. come up slowly and approach each other and start talking and clasping each other's hands and the whole dining room sees them and breaks out in applause and roosevelt dies soon after. taft was happy they made up. >> i love the audience applauding because they knew their leaders came back together. to the question from the audience. how has the availability of universal and instant information impacted our presidents which would be different from their predecessors? michael? >> well, i think that, of course, another great question. presidents -- again all leaders care about information. and i think presidents that you get more information almost all presidents want more information. they want to get informed. why not?

anyone who voted for wilson or roosevelt is a progressive. wilson,races to woodrow the questioning of the separation of powers, the birth of the imperial presidency, the rise of demagoguery. lots of conservatives and libertarians blame it all on wilson. that is a tough series of critics to have from both sides. maybe related to that, for you to start on this, to shifting cultural views impact the ways historians rate presidents? michael: absolutely. in part because we are embedded in culture. they can try to break a lot of things, but they cannot break out of their culture. it might be able to change the culture. ,incoln's vision encompasses let's change our culture by getting rid of slavery. let's break the chain so to speak and begin a different way of thinking. then, unfortunately he died. culture is critical for a president because it defines the context in which they operate. susan: will take about 10 more minutes with questions. place. jfk's is it camelot? >> he did not pass much legislation. signal things he --ted to have done, he foun

in 1917, he was a special emissary of president wilson. he told an audience in new york in the summer of 1917 that "pro german traitors" were threatening the war effort. and here is what he said, in his own words. there are men walking about the city tonight who ought to be taken out at sunrise tomorrow and shot for treason. there are some newspapers published in this city every day, the editors of which deserve conviction and execution for treason. with his hatred of the media, he would be right at home in the trump administration. people like him were as fierce as they were about the war because there was considerable resistance to it. this is another thing that gets left out of our history books. there was a group, for instance, called the women's pieced party that agitated against the war, both before and after the united states joined. here's an advertisement for an antiwar meeting that was to take place on the very eve of the war itself, the day before wilson went to congress to ask for the declaration. two days later, this organizat

for more, we are joined by abolitionist scholar ruth wilson gilmore. she is a professor of earth and environmental sciences and director of the center for place, culture, and politics at cuny graduate center. she is co-founder of california prison moratorium project and critical resistance and the author of "golden gulag: prison, surplus, crisis, and opposition in globalizing california." her forthcoming book is "change everything: racial capitalism and the case for abolition." professor ruth wilson gilmore, it is an honor to have you with us from lisbon, portugal, where you are right now. can you start off with the basics? how are youou defined abolition? and can you put it in a pandemic context right now? >> oh, i certaiainly -- thanknku for having m me o on the shshow. it was very good fofor me to her the commentaryry from my colleae in texas s stopped abolition ses way -- it sees prison and punishment t as solutions for all kinds of social economic, political, behavioral, and interpersonal problems. abolition is not simply decarceration, put everyb

so i mentioned the woodrow wilson house. when he left on march 24th 1921, he had a wine collection and he didn't want to leave it behind because his successor was a part drinker and he so he got permission to transport his wine collection, and during prohibition if you had alcohol in your possession before prohibition started, that was yours to keep. they weren't going to take it away from you. so personal possession was not outlawed during prohibition but you can't manufacture or transfer or sell it. it was permission to transport from the white house over to his new house on coloramma. and we have a prohibition tour that i lead sometimes and at the end of the tour we go down and see the prohibition era wine cellar. it is really cool. it is really unique. how many other houses in the country have original bottles. it is amazing. now, look right up front, that short bottle right in the center, that is quandrow. the packaging has hardly changed. it is amazing. many of the bottles with believe the wilsons got from the french a