and in both cases china loses for a very simple reason china was old china was vast but china had fallen behind technologically. her ships were not as maneuverable as the british ships. they would have stayed at the art. her cannons were woefully behind the chinese cannons were cast of bronze and made it in portugal in the 1600s. the british cannons were again the very finest there could be had in the most accurate. so britain handily won the first and second of these so called open wars and used that opportunity to demand the china open up several other ports, including ning paul. parts of shanghai chiensen etc. once this news became known this is what happened if we take a look at this political cartoon, you can step around. if you take a look at this political cartoon you get an idea of what was to happen. here we see china shown as a sleeping dragon, of course a reference to a napoleon's comment that china was a sleeping giant and fighting over the carcass. we see the british lion the russian bear the american eagle the french rooster etc. they're all farting over the carcass to be m

china or try to hold china responsible for the spend that make . that's what time is firmly opposed to china wants to oppose those people who refused to put science above everything else. and who wants to really sure their own responsibility for their failure of container, the virus in their own country and also leading to so many debts of the good hearted american people almost 600000 of them. that's i think, the shame that we witness in the world now talking about the incident before the outbreak in hon. i think the w, rachel should really organize an investigation into the american military athletes who attended the military game. england was to bro months before the outbreak and who reported sick to the genius time infectious disease hospital. their samples and their medical records were kept in china. and they were all of a sudden l if did send back to the united states. what happened to them? okay. what's that condition after they went back to the united states? i hope w h o should really look into this particular situation. you walk right wi

discussion now on efforts to deal with china. we'll hear from former secretary of state henry kissinger and former senator joe lieberman on u.s. diplomacy and china's plan to be a world power. the mccain institute hosted this half-hour is that. event. >> it's my honor to pose this discussion with dr. henry kissinger and is a member of the board we welcome henry and thanking him for agreeing to participate in this virtual 2021 for him. henry and i agree to capture the spirit of the sedona forum that neither of us would wear a tie for this hearing so this is as close as we can get. i want to say first how important henry kissinger was to john mccain. a great source of counsel for foreign-policy and a loyal friend in every way. i was privileged on a couple of occasions to be together with henry kissinger and john mccain. one memorable trip overnight across the atlantic to go to the u.n. security conference in which we spoke on many topics and there was a way in which john and i were controlled by just hearing henry's stories which w

was up to when you talk about the greater knowledge of the china made in china 2025 program, the greater knowledge about the united front efforts, the efforts of various organizations of the communist party to influence the us opinion leaders, us thinkers. business elites and there was , the changing climate was quite dramatic. but me ask you to hypothesize had hillary clinton been elected president, in 2016 might that have happened ? >> to be sure, if hillary clinton had been elected, the policies would have been different area that the strategies would have been different and the personnel would have been different and i think i do not think that he would have been able to continue what many saw in the obama administration is a large re-engagement focus, largely risk-averse and confrontation others policy. in other words, what we're seeing in providing an ministration right now is a something in between where the obama administration was and trumpet ministration ended up in that is a competitive based approach that sort of his clear eyed about the activities of the chinese leadership b

wall street and big tech just as bad, they were kissing up to china for money all day long. >> china plays a leadership position for the world in many different areas. >> the most important relationship in the world is the one between the us and china. >> xi is not a dictator. he has a constituency to answer to. laura: all while denouncing their fellow americans as racist. >> it is a step backwards. >> trying to restrict voters access to polls, it is disproportionately hurting black and brown communities. >> this is about protecting the voices of our people. laura: those same individuals would never criticize china in the same manner. many big companies have gone out of their way to big for china's forgiveness. big business was recently on hand to cover up china's worst human rights abuses. companies like apple, nike, coca-cola lobbied against legislation banning the importation of products from the same problems were china has enslaved millions of muslims. wall street will simply say okay, if we don't do these deals, symmetry some other country will. my answers let them. i would rat

-china including rep. stephanie murphy and dan sullivan and mark esper. >> my name is josh, columnist with the global section of the washington post. this panel will be about the china challenge, i'm honored to welcome to the stage now, three very distinguished public servants who all not only played a crucial roll in mitigating the united states for the china challenge who all have their own career and personal stories connected to the late senator john mccain. and i myself traveled with senator mccain for many years and many countries to watch him promote both the american interest in american values set up for the countries all over the world. and that is part what we are bringing you forward so part of what we are bringing forward as a country to the china challenges to the world. i would like to welcome you all to this panel right now. i would like to start off with a question and the question i am posting to each of you will start with you sen. dan sullivan. it's very simply this, at the beginning in

we should clearly know that china considers taiwan part of china. i traveled to china many times in the past and served on the hill. to them it is indisputable part of their territory. it is on that bucket list of things they want to finalize. i was there at the handover in 1997 for hong kong, there was another one in a check that box years ago and now they are pulling hong kong closer in. it is a matter of concern, something we watch closely. i am confident in that. i will say this much. the taiwanese need to do more, increase their defense spending and spend on the right things and we look at ways to cooperate, that is one thing we've begun last summer, late summer, greater cooperation with taiwan and how we incorporate into our planning our allies and it begins with allies such as japan and australians and others but we have european allies that have a presence in the in the pacific like the brits and the french who can also play ball. we need to think more broadly about the defense of i. how do we deter chinese aggressive behavior and stick to t

and china. and that was what was written on the paper in front of him that's what he said and -- two days later information about the virus started pouring in. and that sort of they thought lasted about two days and then you know after the virus hit, for a time as book details -- president trump continued to believe his xi jinping or at least wanted to believe his if good friend xi jinping that this was under control in two separate phone calls and told trump that it was under control and herbal medicine would go away when it got warmer and this fed into, you know, a process, in fact, in the white house that relaid a stronger response and contributed to suffering of americans. of course chinese government did this with countries all over the world in march and april, the chinese government blackmailed the united states government with our keeping -- in order to pressure fbi homeland to shut up about its conduct related to virus. you know, by the time it became clear to the president and everyone

the demographic structured in china is very clear. china is becoming an aging society. it is getting more and more important to make better use of women in the labor force. haidi: we have seen the one child policy play into the demographics. china had 30 million more men and women. are the feminists losing the population goals? >> i think it is a combination of both. or from the workplace side. china is not floating any parental leave policies for fathers. they are only bringing forth the social stereotype. the government can also do more providing better health care and childcare support. the government can do more about it. shery: what sort of workforce are chinese women encountering right now? how far or broad is the discrimination against them when finding jobs? how easy is it to find certain jobs more than others? >> currently, chinese women make up 40% of the total labor force. they face a big glass ceiling when they try to climb up the corporate ladder. this rate is higher than the global average. less than 10% of senior executives are women. that is the glass ce

the south china sea we clearly how that it is part of china. it's an indisputable part and in 19974 hong kong? if they check that box years ago it is a matter of concerned i know they had pay con command. that i will say this much they need to increase their defense spending and we need to look at more ways to cooperate. and greater cooperation with taiwan how do we incorporate into planning with the allies with the australians and others. but now european allies have a presence in the indo pacific such as the brits in the french. so more broadly in that regard of the defense of taiwan but how do we deter chinese aggressive behavior to stick to the principles we are in no are part of that communiquÉ. i will jump an issue to say this about taiwan. there involvement now this is a country who did incredibly well with covid in terms of how to prevent high infection rates they at not a member of the who at the same time we see china try to infiltrate itself and all these international organizations who, intellectual property organization and others

china. first it was the clampdown on iron ore, copper, corn. the next victim as we talk about import clampdown's, it seems like a negotiating tactic out of china, but we did see movement in these core markets rebounding. it seems like those u.s. cargoes that were canceled there, not that big enough to shift the outlook. haslinda: top u.s. and chinese trade officials have just finished their first discussion. talks between the vice premier and a u.s. trade representative were constructive. let's bring in our china correspondent, tom mackenzie in beijing. it's constructive and very important. tom: as you say, this is the first set of talks between the sides since the biden administration took over. they said these conversations were constructive, candid, and will be continued. they both agreed trade between the two sides is important. we know katherine tai went into this wanting to keep policy continuity. she wanted to check china was living up to its commitments. they have emphasized they wan

at a time where china -- trump was saying positive things about china. steve: let me follow-up on that because the president said there were specific questions for china, the chinese government, and president xi jinping saying the investigation is now closed. what tools, blood pressure can the west put on china to reopen its investigation, specifically to find out what answers they need with regard to the lab in wuhan, china? >> well, there are a number of tools that can be used. i think there are covert tools, right? one of them is to respect our sanctions, use diplomacy, pushing the chinese leadership to be more open, using those methods. but one of the really striking aspects of the statement that the president put out was he directed the intelligence community to analyze -- and this is a keyword -- and collect more information about what happened on the ground in china. and the intelligence sources i've been talking to have said the word collapse is eagerly -- is -- collect is particularly significant because the president is urging them to do more t

why does china have something to hide -- why, does china has been to hide? >> china has already fully cooperated, the operation started from the burst week of the discovery of the pandemic in wuhan. in 2020 early january. and throughout all of these months, china worked closely with the who and china was transparent in welcoming to bho experts which included many american scientists -- who experts which included many american scientists in wuhan and they had a conclusion. we need to use that conclusion rather than using politics and refused to put science above everything else. this is the attitude of china and i will propose we build up a global chronology for all of the evidences leading to the outbreak of the pandemic, including many evidences which have been discovered in the united states and in several other countries. by looking at all of the relevant data and evidence, we will have a better idea as to where truly this virus started. >> you say china was very transparent with the world health organization investigators. as we heard about report, they

it's china. and, in fact, our share of of trade with those countries is either, keeping still, keeping steady or actually decline as china's part of the pie is increasing pixel that's number one. number two, remember, president trump at that time was threatening that if congress didn't agree to usmca, not only was he not going to agree to usmca is going to get rid of nafta, that would like totally upended 20 years of relationships between companies. so that was a serious threat. finally, let's remember the republican congress agreed to a lot in the usmca negotiation, including weakening the privation, getting rid of the pharmaceutical ip our protections to kind of must pass under tpp where the republicans were not happy with the agreement the obama team brought home, you know, with their 11 asian countries. so again i think this and unique circumstances there but i think there's a lot we can learn from europe in ca. i would hope if we develop worker centric trade policy that we want to present to

it's china. and, in fact, our share of of trade with those countries is either, keeping still, keeping steady or actually decline as china's part of the pie is increasing pixel that's number one. number two, remember, president trump at that time was threatening that if congress didn't agree to usmca, not only was he not going to agree to usmca is going to get rid of nafta, that would like totally upended 20 years of relationships between companies. so that was a serious threat. finally, let's remember the republican congress agreed to a lot in the usmca negotiation, including weakening the privation, getting rid of the pharmaceutical ip our protections to kind of must pass under tpp where the republicans were not happy with the agreement the obama team brought home, you know, with their 11 asian countries. so again i think this and unique circumstances there but i think there's a lot we can learn from europe in ca. i would hope if we develop worker centric trade policy that we want to present to

when will china say we have enough? look into the crystal ball, give us a gauge. >> we think the robust chinese demand is going to remain in place for at least two to three years. whether that ends up being three or four years depends on global -- how the global grain crops shake out in 2021. we are early in the season, we are in the middle of planting in the united states so we have a long way to go. i think the june acreage report has the potential to be a major market mover that -- in that if global grain production is robust this year, that will create a bit of downward pricing pressure in the aggregate commodities space. in terms of your direct question, that robust chinese demand, we think it has to continue for at least two to three years. to put it in perspective, if you go back five years, the stock ratio in china for corn was at about 99%. forward to today, it is only about 36%. rishaad: very quickly, i don't want to get to susie and -- but given that the world population is where it is question mark --? >> fo

integrating more fully withwi china. in investments that are leaving china and rewarding some of their or having incentives for them to come home or to diversify their supply chain. i would hope in the outcome of the supply-chain reports in addition to the united states providing some incentives for re- shoring, we will also see a focus on establishing secure supply chains, working with like-minded countries and this coalition of countries could very sector by sector or product byproduct depending on which companies in which countries are involved in these technologies are in these products. and that would be kind of a c key component of our supply chain policy. a policy that's based on decoupling the re- shoring is just not realistic. it's notea going to happen companies are not going to do that so for smart and nuanced and use the leverage of working with other like-minded countries to achieve our objectives respect essentially what you seem to be saying as well, you have this in government level discussion messaging f

but not just china. others like world without us and we saw that in economic partnership. not only did they write rules among the 15 countries, but they now have a framework for addressing new issues as they appear in the region and guess what, we're not going to be invited to that table for those discussions. and that's, that's problematic that's a great concern to me and i hope to others and i hope that shows and demonstrates that we need to find a way to engage. >> i want to turn to u.s. mta and ask one more question about china. a huge priority for this supplytration has been a chain review and this is still underway an extremely complicated process that so manies to boil down in large part to how the u.s. can reorient its supply chain away from china on all sorts of products. so i'm curious to hear your thoughts on how realistic you think it is that the u.s. could essentially decouple from the world second biggest or soon to be largest economy in the world. do you think that decouple way this admini

or china. yes competence so is there a game plan the kind of play possum they say will take your funny money and we're going to buy half of the s. and p. $500.00 until such time as we all the s. and p. $500.00 and then we won't take your funny money anymore what's going on that's. a genuine where is the church is the hour when i think they will come out with a parable to replace the dollar i think you asked as harrah's is very much a one party system and they made their watch try to say they want it you tried in the democrats fighting while the biggest funder of economic system you have that state was china and the oligarchs ishq point in this better than anybody else. twitter google search long america they want sharing 1000000000 new customers in china and they're in china's all in chains while you're right saying you know must china rock when we are quote everything and you know china. has probably won the war without a shot being fired is nobody. china nobody and i standing on your program

let's get more from our senior editor for commodity and china -- in china. which sectors are suffering? >> if you are a buyer of commodities you will be suffering the most because you have to put an enormous amounts of cash down and you are it is a situation where you are buying into a rising market. if you were buying copper, coal, corn, those areas of the economy, factories, power plants, farms, those of the people suffering the most at the moment. shery: what is the picture right now for chinese factories? >> if you are a fabricator of metal, so you shape metal into rods and wire and that kind of thing, and you sell your products further into the supply chain you are in a situation where you cannot pass on those costs, so that is where a lot of china's factories are squeezed, because what we have seen is ppi as jump to but consumer price inflation has not jumped because household spending remains low but softer, so the costs are getting stuck with chinese factories at the moment. haidi: we are seeing all power companies within china losing power as a resu

china to invest in china's infrastructure. >> interesting. everyone sees this as another step into china opening capital markets, but is there more that you would like to see from regulators an order for more money to really flow through? >> the big issue facing china is the aging demographics of china. reservists within china are inadequate for the trends we are seeing in terms of the population aging, and the reserves for gdp is less than 15%. china has embarked upon this program of liberalizing their pension system, and they gave rise to the division retail space, and that is a space we are extremely active in. one of the things we would like to see from the government is clarity in terms of the tax position for those instruments, and we think that the market would significantly expand on the back of that. >> another concern when it comes to investing in china of late is the huarong debacle, what are your assessments? michael: it is a huge deal. we are probably about the largest player in the asia fixed income space, and china is about 40%

coast guard is actively battling communist china principles right now in the south china sea, where the cpp is trying to dominate and bully neighbors, john ratfliffe is with us this morning and i have to ask you your reaction why quote a communist dictator while speaking to the very men and women defending our coast and our country, do you think this is what is expected to send off china's bad behavior. >> it's poor judgment and it's what he's going to continue to be criticized about being soft on china he is the founder of the chinese commonest party in the chinese communist party there is no group that is treating women worst than the chinese communist party treating uighur women right now, millions of them. it is really poor judgment and will continue to open up the biden administration to criticism as they continue to make soft policy decisions that are good for china and not stand up in the chinese communist party. maria: it seems a another policy decision has highlighted everyday, president biden his worst move arguably is giving the u.s. vaccine technology to china waiving any pr

so china must be our friend. china lies, they cheat and they steal and if we will be effective, it's not just biden. they have to look out for what's many the best interest of america and for american workers and if you sell out your country, just to make a profit in china, the long-term strategy of dealing with communists who don't believe in freedom and liberty and in the values that are in our constitution, that future is very dark and we have to be more thoughtful on how we engage with them. it's a great way to make money but don't forget, they don't share our values and let's look out for our people. i think donald trump had the right strategy in putting our country first and making sure that we understood that china was not a friend. maria: yeah, i will just add to that, it's not just that china was the enemy of trump, it's also that a lot of people in washington are making a lot of money on china and there are conflicts. >> so true. maria: we need to make sure we point that out. we have more to come. stay

secondly, if we look at the, the workforce here in china, china's rapid growth that we've seen, rapid economic growth these past few decades has been largely attributed to its massive workforce. and that massive workforce is gradually shrinking. and experts have told us over the next 5 years, china is expected to lose about 35000000 workers from its labor force. now the 2nd reason, the 2nd part of this is the other piece of work data. and that is that not enough chinese babies are being born even after trying to impose its true child policy. in 2016, we saw a bump, maybe in birth, in birds, in china. but that really decline very quickly. and we've seen a decline in the birth rate for the past 4 years. let's take a closer look at how china's population has evolved through the decades by 9969. china had a population of more than 800000000. 10 years later it introduces one child policy to balance. population goes with economic development. that policy is thought to have prevented up to 400000000 bess. in 2016, it was replaced, allowing couples to have children. but relaxing family planni

but what might be be learning out about modern china? what role it is going to play in the years to come. i'm delighted to have two discusses oxford university professor of history and award-winning author, latest book is called china's good war how world war ii shaping a new nationalism pick professor, thank you for joining me. >> terry, great to be here today. gerry: what are the chinese, how are they treating this, we heard they respond even really to wasn't biden's suggestion or demand for an inquiry saying this was typical u.s. manipulation of the facts so how is the chinese been talking about the origins of the virus in in their own expiration for it? >> i think, gerry, there are two conversations going on in china at the same time. one is short-term and one is long-term. the short term one is one that looks around them and says look, at the moment because of the extremely, you know, hard-core tactics that have tried to push on the virus basically shutting down large sectors of the cities even one infection that comes up basically

so let's move to china. china is expected to surpass the u.s. as the world's biggest economy in 2028. china is gaining on u.s. and -- in military power, as i'm sure you know. do you believe that a military conflict with china is inevitable? >> i don't. i don't believe it's inevitable, and i think the key aspect of the united states ensuring it does not become inevitable is demonstrating the credibility and will on the military side, where we sit at dod to thwart any such effort that would violate direct u.s. interest. that of course will be only -- overall national security approach. that is diplomacy led. so there are lots of other areas in which the united states and china will contest the rules of the national road in the economic sphere and other spheres. also, opportunities for cooperation that help to build away from conflict. but in the military realm i think what we can do is, first, ensure we understand escalation patterns and try to avoid unnecessary escalations. but at the same time, secondly, demonstrate that will and credibility to

to the united kingdom said that china was. being repressive when it comes to dealing with its own people and they grass if internationally and that seems to be the message from both rob and from blinken is that they will hold china and russia to account when it comes to some of the thought the aspects of its domestic and foreign policy but will also attempt to work with russia and china when it comes to very important issues like tackling climate change thank you nave barca on the left hand side of your screen on the right hand side it is the u.s. secretary of state and lincoln in a news conference with his u.k. can. the foreign secretary dominic just ahead of the 1st face to face g. 7 meeting g 7 ministers meeting that is coming up in london in the next couple of days. of course reaffirming their special relationship as they like to say between the united states and the u.k. you are right up to date with the news here more on that and the latest on the situation particularly in india that will be. counting the cost is coming

we will get more insight on china's changes with our china analyst, gabriel wildau. that is it for "daybreak: asia." our market coverage continues as we look ahead to the start of markets opening in hong kong and xinjiang and also look into the open of malaysia. the country there is entering a lockdown. time for "bloomberg marketsthis is bloomberg. ♪ >> welcome to bloomberg markets china open. david: good morning. counting down to the open of trade in the chinese mainland. let's get to your top stories. china taking its most significant step yet to curb the strength in the currency. the pboc forcing banks to raise fx reserves for tht

action in country like afghanistan or iraq or libya so china china obviously sees a double standard with these comments and sees how human rights become very politicized and used just to mobilize public opinion against them and that's part of what rick was discussing this thrust towards confrontation and war when these are countries who express openness towards cooperation and towards working together to solve global problems which is what we should be doing what jeremy further to that i mean you hear people on capitol hill saying you know america shouldn't be a nation building some nation building after much of our military have gone in to destroy those nation. well i think you know joe biden kind of woke up late there was a little conversation in january between joe biden and morris johnson where they joe biden said oh look at china's one belt one road we need their own one belt one road and it's kind of waking up late in the game but maybe they'll move in this direction and you don't see that china's approach to the so-called developing world there's a lot there that it brings benefit

there are hundreds of nice houses in china. some of them have even made the front pages of international newspapers assigned a change that is usually broken at some point. the chances of winning the battle are slim. the other side is too powerful, and people evicted from their homes are often injured in the process shown. how's this and his gearing up as if the battle, the a you can throw that out the window. it has a brick as an anchor. oh then i can light the fuse and run away home and you saw the leech usually has prepared enough homemade explosives to bring it all down. if anyone gets in they won't make it out alive. he films himself as he places them throughout the building. the that fuses for this road. this is for the stairs one for down the 2nd floor. the entrance there is some issue that when they're in the rooms on the ground floor and disconnects the gas to the roof, the bombs on the roof here. and here everything is labeled. if you're going to do it, you have to do it right? so the individual nail hauser who basical

south china sea. last week the chinese government claimed there's been a 40% increase of activity by u.s. planes in chinese claimed areas since biden's took office. activity of u.s. military up 20%. tony blinken appeared on "60 minutes" and accused china acting in adversarial ways. >> it is the one country in the world that has the military, economic, diplomatic capacity to undermine or challenge the rules-base order that we care so much about and are determined to defend. but i want to be very clear about something. and thiss important. our purpose is not to contain china, to hold back, to keep it down. it is to uphold this rules based order that china is posing a challenge to. anyone who poses a challenge to that order, we are to stand up and defended. amy: that is the secretary of state tony blinken. walden bello, we have been having this discussion about vaccines. the u.s. being seen in the eyes of the world right now as more of a danger to the world, especially when compared to russia and china.

and in that context, china believes that the united states is trying to check china's rise. and in that context is countering from their perspective, again, what they perceive to be our influence and our efforts in this area. i think, in their perception, they are increasingly perceiving it as a zero sum game and that promotes in a sense their efforts to really push us out in a way. and to be a threat across a range of factors and see us as a threat to them in that context. >> let me change the subject. to what extent, and you mentioned this in your opening testimony and your written statement, expand a bit on climate change as a national security concern. the one i'm particularly concerned about is incipient migration from areas of the world that become, essentially, uninhatable because of drought, famine, extreme heat. do you see this as a threat multiplier? a national security concern as well as, of course, an environmental concern? >> i do, absolutely. part of the challenge for us is recognizing that climate change has just enormous impact in every aspect of our lives an

the china challenge is large. china moves fast. china has a very clear vision of where it wants to go. we need to match the competition we are getting from china by having a clear vision about what kind of economy we want to have what kind of strength we have two build on and doubt we will relate to china. on the question you asked regarding forced labor and anti-competitive practices from china that really create global market domination that drives out competition in economies like ours, what i would say is this. the u.s.-china trade and economic agreement, this phase i agreement we have is the agreement that we have right now and it does have certain mechanisms we will need to test out, but in terms of building out where we need to be with respect to china, i am looking forward to working with you, the members of this committee and the senate and across the administration without we best positioned the u.s. economy to be strong, run fast, and come out ahead after we come out of this pandemic and into the future. >> thank you. th

or to hold china down. what we are trying to do is to uphold the international rules based order that our countries have invested so much in, over so many decades to the benefit. i would argue not just of our own citizens, but of people around the world, including by the way, china during the now discuss has been thus co host an investigative journalist, been swan now been. let's start with the issue of how the group of 7 plan to deal with the rise and growth of china. what do we know so far? yeah, it's kind of interesting because as you heard there the anthony lincoln, the secretary said, is really trying to kind of play both sides of this. right. he wants to come up as strong as per the bottom, the tempted to do the same thing strong on china. but at the same time, they don't want to upset china. because problems with china, certainly not problems in terms of trade or, or international or economic relation. so they're kind of playing this carefully. so on one side you're saying to europe and to these othe

china, ithink in the past _ china, now? china, ithink in the past year. _ china, now? china, ithink in the past year, its _ china, now? china, ithink in the past year, its policy - china, now? china, ithink in the past year, its policy may| the past year, its policy may have provoked the documents to take a harder line approach with the biden administration. they may have made the calculation that china is in a relatively stronger position thanit relatively stronger position than it was a year ago and it may get some support for north korea because the united states is putting more pressure on china. china sees north korea and other peripheral states within the region as a potential point of the united states in a manner to decrease tensions between china and the united states. that might be part of the calculation in pyongyang. it part of the calculation in pyongyang-— pyongyang. it has been excellent _ excellent to have your analysis. thank you. you are watching bbc news. our top stories: israelis hold a vigil for the 45 people who lost their lives in a stampede. s

action in country like afghanistan or iraq or libya so china china obviously sees a double standard with these comments and sees how human rights become very politicized and used just to mobilize public opinion against them and that's part of what rick was discussing this thrust towards confrontation of war when these are countries who express openness towards cooperation and towards working together to solve global problems which is what we should be doing well jeremy further to that i mean you hear people on capitol hill saying you know america shouldn't be a nation building but then you compare it to places like china like you said that are investing in infrastructure projects all around the world shouldn't america probably do some nation building after much of our military has gone in to destroy those nations. well i think you know joe biden kind of woke up late those of the conversation in january between joe biden and boris johnson where they joe biden said well look at china's one belt one road we need our own one belt one road and it's kind of waking up late in the game but maybe

they see china step into the role that the china, the neighbors you know, the interest is inevitable. and they also realize that they can help them. you know, a lot of san would require reconstruction. atlanta san would require investments, boast, conflict investments, and china, a stance to gain the economic got it, all the china is building the go, all the port that has become a priest or a protestant being land locked, central asian republics being land locked. right? so if there's an interest greater interested in a lot of fun and simulation republics, who are part of your, the china box on russia? ah, the interest is natural, but isn't the only then the, because of the nature of the us is strategic posture. but if i've got some dollars, get more involved with belton road and does get more involved with china, and suddenly wants to become interested again because it, it, so as it's concerned, it doesn't want to have any money to have all was advocated. it would be a mistake to lose interest. it would be a political mistake that washington will make if they lose interest in stock.

while the biggest problem of china's population structure that china might reach its peak growth in the next one to 3 years, and then it will start to decline. meaning that it's that the population at the share of the population, right? that's a problem for many economies that they have to pay more and the more retired people, while not having as many young working age people. but for china, this comes with when it's not quite as rich as other countries who have experienced the same. so the burden on the young people will be much higher. and this is something that has worried the government and economists for a few years now. it could be much more difficult for china than for other countries like germany, japan, italy, other european countries that have the same problem. all right, so you said that it's been worrying the government and economists, but what about people in china? what are they saying about the government's policy shift? the generation that is now planning their families is people who are owned in the end of the twenty's and the beginning of the 30s. they have all grown u

because we certainly do trade with china and china is a member of the world trade organization they have been since 2001 a problem know even though they're technically assimilated into our system and they did allow multinationals to come into china and use their people as cheap labor the problem is that there were other requirements for assimilation into our economic system but china didn't do so like china didn't privatized all their most valuable industries and still maintains control over a lot of them and on top of that china is now lending money to other countries and setting up a parallel payment system which competes with the systems created within the world . trade organization system and so that's the problem that our government is grappling with what do they do about a country that agreed to assimilate into the w.t.f. system but is instead competing with that knowledge our involved our allies and our partners and this japan and so on well i can tell you this much there's a new nickname that's being kicked around d.c. and it's the quad which is the united states india japan