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Good evening and welcome to the plan

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a board meeting of Tuesday May sixteenth
these meetings are recorded. To take

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a motion on the merits. But John seconded
by baby any discussion on the merits

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hearing not all in favor opposed unanimous
will go right into the public hearings

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down to new public hearing application of

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central realty corporation for

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a special permit to construct vehicle
village and residential development

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consisting of one hundred forty seven
detached single family residential units one

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hundred eighteen point nine six acres
wearing these to leave the keys to drive in

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the West that we are leaving the street
Thank you Karen we are receipts from the

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applicants. The proposal looks like

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a few various parks wrote
Melford I don't know what

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a total. Plates aggregate number
is because it's not out of

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up we receive that you sent us or you
just get it he hasn't I'm sorry five

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seventeen or something the thirty
three thank you. If he three. Then we

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also have

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a response from the engineering.
Correlation to the town engineers

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analysis Regrettably I don't have
an engine is QUESTION So Mike

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if you've made it so that just adds

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a moment to yes that's our then since
I don't have the list of your initial

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concerns I mean I don't see

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a direct response there last week
Tuesday. In response to my original. Work

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back in February that was issued as

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a draft so I'm still working to get
through the resource so. In numbers it's

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one thing at

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a four way stop sign was an issue last time
yes I think the Africans going to speak

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to the only site needs more memory units
as there's also Larry is in possession

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of

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a. Line of Sight easement
if you will that's the

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original. For the affected
area so with that

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I will take it away so
as as you said this is

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a proposal because the residential smiting
development work you know located

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between the risk free opposite Maple Street
in case you drive fixed and requires an

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extension of case you drive as

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a public road to the intersection you
are. In and in doing so he will be

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creating takes to lock it read and listen
to what subdivision one lot of in here

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where here we've also get that
approved so that we will this

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road as the proposal is to
create. The By right the

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applicant can build ninety
seven condominium units with

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a fifty percent bonus entry Duffey
one hundred forty seven units.

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They are clustered in different areas
because of that you can see here this

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significant wetness on the profit is
already part of the open space actually

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a little bit over your stream appraisal
stream located right here which ever so we

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cluster areas here here
here something along.

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The Post site will be serviced by catch
basin the drain manhole drainage system

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we've we've provided recharge basins to
locations here storm water base and two

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locations here so we can attenuate the
total suspended solids we've got four days

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and can call unique in that in this
location. Well you know. We've

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attenuated the one inch rainfall to address
the issues with phosphorus as opposed

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to just a half inch so we're trying to be

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a little bit proactive we're
going in that area there.

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One of the issues at the last meeting was.
The traffic engineer talked about the

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same distance from the
intersection of K.C.

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Drive extension to Maple Street
in the northerly direction.

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What we did was we approached the landowner
in this particular lot right here and

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he is agreed to provide us with

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a line of sight easement. In exchange for

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a piece of land right in here that abuts
him that's dry. At the time you see the

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proposals continued upon approval of the
development you know this line of sight is

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been insufficient that if

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a car park here fourteen half feet back
it can see two hundred fifty feet in this

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direction and we're going to be at which.

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We have one of the major adjustments we
made to the plan after the last time was

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that the payment with was reduced from
twenty eight feet from thirty feet to twenty

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eight feet and we've eliminated the
sidewalk on one side so there's now

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a sidewalk just on this side or the side
of the road with the majority of the units

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and if you drive extension
subsequently done test holes

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in the location of the basins and done
groundwater mounding analysis will

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comply with the requirements
of America I lines and.

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Basically the driveways the roadways within
these development areas are twenty four

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feet wide a payment each unit has

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a two car garage These are
the units if you've been to

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the beaver pond Commons the single family
condos that have been constructed there

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these are going to be the same type
of units to be constructed and.

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Say we've submitted the. If I'm asian
regarding the work that they have going to

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proposing to do for the parks to
allow the fifty percent. That's

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a bonus. And.

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Pretty much

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a project so. The new parcel
being created you will

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also need to have the latest ladies would
extend over and over it yes yes yes when

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you go through but the agreement you
saw. Is to create that plan and get all

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that done so questions from the board

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Yeah yeah he. Says they haven't.

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Seen that this is

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a public meeting his or anyone from the
onset would not let me just finish would

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like to have

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a question if so I will call on you for
the record please state your name and

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address yes or. No where you may just
want to see him again you haven't given

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they want to come use what
really needs Duffy Do you F.-F.

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Why you just may want to come up and
utilize the microphone for those just to

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immediately they go could use

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a hero just please one twenty six Beaver
Thank you. My first question is on the

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need it density bonus to know what to put
that many units in and they're talking

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about doing some work on a
park to me that sounds quite

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a payoff to work for the park to get
the density bonus I mean we're already

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strapped down there for traffic and
everything else and now we're going to allow

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that because if I do some work on

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a park doesn't seem quite right for me on
that part. Why the site I guess you've

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fixed that

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a little bit but the traffic down here is
going to be insane specially if you open

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up that bridge that goes through Hopedale
and Bellingham and all that kind of stuff

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as it is right now all day long there's
cars going to the lift bus going down the

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end of that school bus has got eighteen
wheelers. It's crazy you can walk across

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the street without getting hit there's no
sidewalks is no nothing if you can do all

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that I don't know you should fix fix that
road there because that corner is crazy

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I've had to head on collisions or from my
house in the last twenty years. You know

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straighten out the road to stop them and
you know again just why do you have to put

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that many in here why can't we
do all of this and maybe just

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a few OR SOMETHING WAS have to be
that many to seems to me that it's

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a lot going into

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a small place you got all those wetlands
the stuff you just going the whole place

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there's almost no open area Milford anymore
it's almost all gone it's all but it's

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all been built on so it's going to be some
reason to this that all well you know

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it is. The big people like Mr Alfonzo have
already made millions of dollars that we

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have to put so many in and I granted his
land and he can do stuff with it Torino

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but maybe

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a little bit less instead of all that
stuff and then roads coming in here roads

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coming up here and this
looks big sixteenth of

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a mile I can see both from my
house it's going to be crazy

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and. I'm sure my neighbor feels the same
way and I don't know about that neighbor

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when we don't know but. I know he hasn't
been too happy with all this stuff over

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three years haven't talked to him lately
but. I'm sure he can't be too happy with

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it either and it just seems too much of

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a small area that that's my
biggest point if we could make it

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a little bit less. That can
be done talked about that's

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that and the sort of the traffic is going
to come in of course right now we've had

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a lot of rain such great for moving but
you know I'm going to well so I mean when

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it comes down to when we have these
these times I like last year we had

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a lot of rain you take

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a look you know all these newer places not
just down but the one across town the

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three hundred units taking all this water
and stuff. And I would you want to one of

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my lawn because I was afraid you know when
I'll run out of water because we're so

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low and it's just so many things going
in the same time that it's going to tax

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everything not just one thing
sewer water fire schools traffic

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everything so it just seems
to me to make sense to make

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a little bit less of what it is not nothing
I you know stand he can build but maybe

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he's in here

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a little bit instead of all that new take
out some so that's what I have to say I

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think your governor right yes sir.

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I'm just like. And I'm from seventy
three Beaver street I'm up when.

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It appear. Is up here. My main concern

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and I agree with my neighbors the wells
and I septic systems in Legion Fields.

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If not correct on the buffalo is that

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a sixty five foot by four from my house my
line to where these houses are going to

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be because it was it's one hundred OK I
was under the impression with sixty five

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These units are not on wells or services
or yeah I understand that but what we have

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back here in between one hundred foot off
five walked and for many years is you've

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got it goes down into a slant and it's

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a hill of rock and ledge which is only
seventy feet or you know one hundred feet

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from my welds and my one my septic system
and then the laundry feet up from my well

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if he has to blast all this ledge on know
how he's going to do the the the work the

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construction is he going to build up or
is he going to dig down on that or you

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couldn't give me any answer until you
get back there right that's all right.

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Why I've walked that land back there and
sixty five seventy feet from my line

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to where you want to put your cluster of
houses which is fifty secs behind me my

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correct we were this is fifty
six Oh says here. In this

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location that's

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a lot of houses and that's one
hundred four by four in between us.

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I've got people of my house that work nights
and sleep days and yeah there's forty

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forty houses here and what's going to you
know the noise fact the with banging

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and blasting I don't know what you said you
don't know what what it's going to win

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tails you know it's it's going
to be intense for us as

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a family trying to trying to deal with
this construction which I'm not against

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believe me but the buffer I am against
I was wondering if there is any way of

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pushing the buffer up to I remember
your first before proposal Mr

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Fonz or you you said

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a football field which is three hundred
three I'm pretty sure. Well you didn't say

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it but we we did ask questions about it
at that meeting and they were going to be

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single family houses right but this is we
see what the project is up there you have

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no where but as up there you can go all the
way to bear all the way to beaver pond

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without any of the butters but we have to
live one has street and one hundred foot

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off of trees down it's going to create
even fumes coming in conditions I

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mean I've been to construction sites all
on my wife I'm into construction myself

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and it's

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a tough situation only give us one hundred
foot buffer and build that many houses

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back there on that small lot. And I
agree that you know I would much feel

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much more comfortable and not worry
about my septic in my well also that's

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a lifeline I don't want to lose that
because I have no way and no money of

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recuperating that and what am I going to
do move out of my house something like

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that does happen I know it's not

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a definite that it would
happen but there's always

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a chance that that will happen and I
would appreciate it if you give us

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a little bit more buffer bacteria and
I've feel more comfortable because of the

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ledge and we also have

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a little mini pond back to three months of
the year we have photos and videos of it

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and if you're going to build the land up
is this guy he didn't I Legion Fields and

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what's going to cause you know I septic
systems and what's that ganti who's going

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to fix this stuff if it does happen that's
my question. You know and that's my

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first fish he smites second one
is the street OK But you know

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one hundred foot buffer is not much for
that for blasting and for the noise that

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we're going to have to put up with then
you smell the fumes and everything else I

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mean we can't just I mean we had

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a constructed host just built on
Sun Traill and they had a they had

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a bang ledge for two days and we couldn't
even talk on our phones you know outside

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it was sold out it's just that's way
it is up there you know and there's

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a lot of ledge up there is the got to
be thirty foot ledge up I don't know if

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you've walked out with them but I have for
many years and that land's going to be

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tough to build on it really
is and it's going to be

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a burden and hardship for
honest people on that street. I

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understand. You know we know that right now
and for the last write letters from me

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and I'll let you know
exactly when that. The L.F.

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Moved. Right but again that's right

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say. That the people asked if you can
promise that I understand their you know if

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you love life what was that doesn't
matter with people in life or some place

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else you know he's the other the letters
that said that he had nothing to do with

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the build up because if you will be by now
there's news that's just and people's

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bad is not because they've built up well
they've got well so they could lie you

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know how that applies to the
whole thing what you just it's

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what the. Recipe that if you
love me then that's all.

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Right but you know one of the most anyway
I understand that that's all that's all

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good but. If it does happen that's going
to affect my life or my family's life OK

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just like the noise is going to affect us
because they're professional people with

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this nurses that there's several people
that sleep during the day and work at night

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that's not our choice that's our life
that's our lives. And we've heard your

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projects and I'm not against you
or your project but you are

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a neighbor could you do a battle
but for me could you do about

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a buffer for us people to have to put up
with just this discard chip that's going

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to be

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a hardship these people are going to have
to change their lives for you in the town

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to do this project what are you going to
do for us all right we're on one of the

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worst streets. OK in the town of no
food and I'm not proud of that and

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I I feel for him because of the danger
of just going out to get your mail id

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mailbox your road is safe you build
safe projects your rolled up up

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where you live your wife can
walk out and get her mail on

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a sidewalk we have to stand on

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a fifteen foot road OK in the wintertime
it's thirteen feet and you want to build

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a four way intersection on the
top of that road which is

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a blind hill it's this twenty kids are
natural resource is twenty grandchildren

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on that street so I feel bad if anything
happens on that street are we going to do

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something with the streets and I know
it's not your responsibility it's towns

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reason why this will be this year where
we're going to do so where when I'd in

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danger of losing our lives you know
that's the question it's one of the

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houses like the houses It's not worried
about how many holes build and how much

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profit everybody has to be it's the lives
it's our lives our kids' lives huge

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just like we had so I said I hope
we can come up with some second

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Actually here is one because
I really really upset

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about the work of. What it was
up you know by the fire come

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so flooded out you got to close now I want
to up I was told that whole left side is

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off what you got

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a motel polls coming up they want
to do with two way street or. Risk

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rushed up. Some of the staff there as

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a part of the whole of
US residents so we have

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a way to. Thank you so
just just as sort of an

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answer. This is this later green that you
see here is undisturbed vegetation and

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it's fifty feet wide at its narrowest
point the part of the slopes towards the

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wetlands so we would not be bringing in
fill in this area we're actually going to

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be trying to use the existing grade as
much as possible making some cuts and

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obviously as with any site we
have lasting occurs there's

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a blasting survey that occurs with you
know that for the neighboring. Property

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property and you know they we you look at
their foundations you check their wells

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and see what kind of you know. Pressure
they have and capacity they have and if

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they're in the process
of blasting there is

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a change then that it's
noted you know there's

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a recourse for. The developers respond to

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what I. Know Right now

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I just said that they there is recourse
that's what he's saying to you and he has

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to do

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a report and study and if something changes
during the development process and it

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and there is recourse nobody could really
really well put you in the well at the

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mine in the short of it is eventually
going to come to you and want to do

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a pre-buy last survey on your property if
it's close enough in terms of what he's

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doing you know what Bob is encouraging you
to do is participate in that pre blast

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study because if you don't and something
goes wrong we're going to bleed it on you

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know what Bob is saying to you is they
know the gallons per minute they know the

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you know the condition relative to your
foundation and so on and so forth if they

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no changes after then yes they have the
what the blasting company essentially has

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insurance and that's what it's
designed for to somehow remedy

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a loss that you may have incurred that's
the easiest way to put it it's why they

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have insurance that. They do is they do
that's why I'm encouraging you to really

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participate if you have the option and
some people choose not to participate in

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that group right obliquely. Side me for

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. My walk again from

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justifiably so. So.
That's the back side oh.

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Well. Then

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again I think I do have to at least
acknowledge that Bob did explain to you that

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there is that you say. You didn't like him

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this is going to be

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a survey. Again I believe you get certified
mail or you scared contacted by phone I

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don't really know your but so obviously
again I can only encourage you to certainly

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participate because if you don't then
regrettably you have to again some people do

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some people don't I can't tell you what
to do what not to do but I know I would

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never so. I don't know if they actually are
certified but what I believe the actual

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action if if they attempt to contact you
and then you sign that you don't want the

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allow them then it's on you if they made
no contact or whatever then then there's

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discussion as to whether it's on them or
not anyway so they will most in most cases

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any of these companies that do it they
make an attempt to contact any of the

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neighbors to make sure that they have

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a signed off that says you allowed me to
come in or no you wouldn't so they can

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they can go back to their insurance
company I was so. Very hard.

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Working. But if I don't get involved I
don't know as well I don't know it now but

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anyways they did it for about as.

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Far. As Not House.

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Oh I'm here again as Mr really
want to point out and you as well

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point out he is your neighbor so clearly I
think if you notice the trees are coming

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down and you haven't heard I think he's
reasonably excessive Oh I believe your

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office is still in Milford So I'm just
saying if you notice the trees come down and

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you have not been contacted clearly and
maybe Who have you to contact his office or

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inquire. I'm not going to go banging on his
door I'm just saying I don't think he's

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running anywhere you say neighbor
Oh no no no. Because you know.

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It's an industrial park you have
to anticipate there's going to be

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a certain degree it's going to be. Tough
right you know I don't know where the heck

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they got it through I don't know where
they've gotten through but they're cutting

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through that one one for you know going
to have you going through my house all of

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that I think. Oh oh oh.

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I think somebody is trying to go down that
road or somewhat foolish because I think

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it's

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a little windy. And I can't control
where people drive any how long. It

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would be right for us and you know if
you're out of the. Anyone else have

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a comment

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a question regarding this
proposal come on up please. Donna

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Peterson and I live at seventy five
beaver and my concern some of him been

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expressed already the traffic on Beaver
street I mean we've had traffic studies

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have had other town meetings in the past
it's only like twelve to fifteen feet wide

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and in front of our house at seventy
five this is about fifteen feet of town

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footage in front of a stone

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a stone wall it belongs to the town and
we have asked for repeatedly that that

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street be widened so it would be safer
because we do we have eighteen wheelers

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because we've been told by law that. You
have to allow them on that street because

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it's

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a major connecting road between Milford
in Hopedale and Bellingham However we've

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also had

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a neighbor who actually several of their
dogs died in the foot of their driveway

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because they were sleeping
in an eighteen wheeler in

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a car with trying to pass each other at the
same time and they had been to the edge

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of the driveway in order to get down the
road and past the eighteen wheeler and

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I've had some near accidents too but the
other concern I have is that this area

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behind my house and Steve's in Ace's house
it's not all foliage there's actually

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a vernal pulled back there and
by law this supposed to be

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a certain amount of footage out from that
that you can't you know go within when

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you're developing it and I've got video
footage of the vernal pool and where it is

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if you want to take

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a look at it afterwards in my tablet here
so between the traffic the road and also

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the buffer you know I
really think it should be

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a more significant buffer behind our
houses especially going out behind her and

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pull as well so those those are my
concerns So anyway it really appreciate

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if you consider that. Thank you.

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We had

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a well in study done on this property and
you know right was done it was it was

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surreal it was look every year it was look
what we stand so you know place you can

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see that the only area that was
flagged by the well site this as

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a possible world was it was here
you know we went into history by

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listing OK here yeah not
there's no record of any list

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or anything so you know
they're in the process of

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classification on Congo have
they can't come gone oh

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well we wish we were we haven't even read
the states active so we haven't we need

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we haven't met with them yet we're meeting
them this Thursday we were on the last

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meeting but we didn't have a T.V.

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.

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There's a lot of things to make something

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a brutal pool with not
just. Your theory or.

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Your.

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I don't know that you don't know who I think
you dress I mean there. Is the idea is

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that the species I mean
they have Yeah I mean.

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But it also has to be of the
species that you know is was

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a listed species you know if you just
be regular process. That happens

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a lot of places. But that's
really controlled by Conservation

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Commission we don't go every day they
say in terms of weapons travel pool to

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whatever the what we end up having to go
by so we don't really well we're mutually

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exclusive in the conservation in terms
of the regulatory you have joining us

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Colonel Paul doesn't change I think we're
not the ones that are going to say yea or

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nay Anyways what I'm saying is that it
wouldn't change anything we could do.

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In terms of this board now it would be
more. Up to the conservation and again

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if whether they identify it as

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a vernal pool as you referred to it
or not we couldn't speak to that

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and they would also have

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a question but he just recap these
are all two bedroom units these are

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all two bedroom units That's correct yeah
so the idea you know he says because you

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made no mention to some similar cross up
going across Yeah I think some of those

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are three you look at it and I did well
let me just finish up I don't want to

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confuse that these are only two bedroom
might you know what we were what the reason

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why some of those units and as

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a matter of just about these are just all
two bedroom units as correct you know

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three better now allow me to you know I
don't want any confusion when you specify

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that as

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a general strike OK. Then
obviously the sidewalks

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within bring you out to the main road
correct. Thank you into this one

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no but in terms of the stop sign did you

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say you were just out of not just the
only stop sign Liz Act currently is

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a stop sign on May but we will
have a stop sign at the end of

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a day will be no stops I placed it as
we will allow for the ones we have the

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adequate site this is really only
for questions from the board

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Yeah is there any way you can stop ten
wheelers from using the. Event that's

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obviously like me issuing you know some
period of day or night I guess I agree

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there's

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a ten will you know place I. You
know here again I believe that

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you know Mr Bonzo's plan to reconstruct
instanter from his existing site exactly

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into into all the work from this week
towards Maple Street so you're not going to

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see

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a lot of this is construction vehicles
entering you know the project from even street

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everything will be coming from
within the belt and a lot of. Just

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a comment Pat if I may trump ten
will is there the ten was there

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a number of roads and I know big street for
instance they were going down there and

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just just just to let you know that if
you do go before the selectmen they will

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help you out and try to reverse them but
they you need to appear with your group

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and give them the the reasons
why you know you're having

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a difficult time and that street in the
end they will you know work with you so I

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suggest that you meet with the select men
and it is happened before where I don't

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you know uncertain streets they've allowed
him to go on other streets and bother

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other people but you know truthfully I
would I would suggest you get together and

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meet with there's

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a lot of women and ask them that question
you know from bridges no no the bridge

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will not reopen. It's going to go away
in the region and in Baba very may

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surely appreciate the work in the
effort in terms of the bonus

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density but. The struggle with with

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a few things first and foremost
in my mind. When this was

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part of a P.R. D. One when we allowed such

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a use in terms of bonus density I think
in my mind I was more hopeful of creation

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of new parks not necessarily repairing
parks that for whatever reason or another

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various boards choose not to seek funding
from more conventional manners like the

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rest of the various boards in this town
do so again not that I don't love the

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effort and what you're attempting
to do I just would have hoped.

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That we were talking about additional
recreational space rather than the

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replication

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a repair. Perhaps for lack of better words
running down. Fencing and dugouts and

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so on and so forth which sometimes
limits it to specific sporting venues

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rather than true passive recreation for
all do enjoy but just my two cents if you

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will. Just my feeling again not that I
don't appreciate you working what you put

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into it but I struggle sometimes when I
look at the parks department I say to

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myself I've been the fire department
have the town meeting member stroke

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a million dollar show check for a fire
engine but you can't go to them for half

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a million to fix fields I just struggle
with that I guess that's my own struggle

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and like I said I just would have preferred
when we look and we realize that we do

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own some land in the town and the food
and I think we would all benefit as as

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a whole phenomenon for us but for future
generations if we had the opportunity to

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to truly develop it into

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a more passive and usable space for you
know future generations of not that I want

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to get them soapbox is just the point
that up to it was that brought up. At all

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that they would look for these the property
where they go I think there's going

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back and forth discussions and again I'm
not going to I can't specify on that

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because I don't have enough of

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a knowledge I can only say that my
feeling when we allowed this my feeling

432
00:37:34,74 --> 00:37:41,73
was for true you know creation of passive
recreation again when we look at

433
00:37:41,74 --> 00:37:48,65
the other one. I guess is an argument that.
It completed the The bike path so to

434
00:37:48,66 --> 00:37:53,76
speak which again whether you use it or
not really certainly does qualify for

435
00:37:54,25 --> 00:37:59,33
future recreation and that was very helpful
in the whole completion of the bike

436
00:37:59,34 --> 00:38:02,22
path I think of until I want to have a as

437
00:38:02,23 --> 00:38:07,20
a bike path and like any other community
does but near the end of there I just

438
00:38:07,21 --> 00:38:11,12
would have liked it when I look at what
you're attempting to do and I looked at it

439
00:38:11,24 --> 00:38:11,84
pretty much

440
00:38:12,28 --> 00:38:15,75
a lot of it has to do with baseball
fields and I don't consider that true

441
00:38:16,61 --> 00:38:21,85
recreation for all that's all I'm saying.
But that's just me that's this is

442
00:38:21,86 --> 00:38:26,51
substantial amount of money oh no and again
I would prefer to see that money put

443
00:38:26,52 --> 00:38:29,56
into. Creating at you know

444
00:38:29,95 --> 00:38:35,04
a park that didn't create today that's
not existing today but again we either.

445
00:38:37,03 --> 00:38:41,21
Please everybody you know even talk
about it don't go there I appreciate I

446
00:38:41,23 --> 00:38:47,07
appreciate what you're saying but you
know what. They've got they've got other

447
00:38:47,08 --> 00:38:52,31
issues the other issue that and you know
as we do this that becomes more and more

448
00:38:52,32 --> 00:38:58,55
problematic because I believe right now
the dot com feels they don't have enough

449
00:38:58,56 --> 00:39:01,51
people to to be able to handle the fields
that they have in the stuff that they

450
00:39:01,52 --> 00:39:06,92
have now so if we if we created new ones
we'd actually be adding to the towns built

451
00:39:06,93 --> 00:39:09,97
the end of the day because they would need
more facilities in order to be able to

452
00:39:09,98 --> 00:39:16,89
do it so to the extent that there they were
making these usable again is not to me

453
00:39:16,90 --> 00:39:20,30
isn't that bad of an idea because I think
they've got other issues if they went

454
00:39:20,31 --> 00:39:27,16
ahead and tried to create new parks at
this point based on their budget. If I

455
00:39:27,17 --> 00:39:31,90
could I think it would be important
though for from the developers standpoint

456
00:39:31,91 --> 00:39:38,80
obviously for the board to come to some.
Level of decision tonight so that he knows

457
00:39:38,81 --> 00:39:45,00
whether or not. He's in the right ballpark
no pun intended or not there with the

458
00:39:45,01 --> 00:39:52,01
proposal to of five six hundred thousand
dollars for the work to restore

459
00:39:52,52 --> 00:39:58,52
the fields or not you know and use that
to justify the density bonus because if

460
00:39:58,53 --> 00:40:03,80
it's not then he needs to make other
decisions but given where we are in the

461
00:40:03,81 --> 00:40:09,65
overall review process I think would be
very helpful to Dominic to know whether he

462
00:40:09,66 --> 00:40:10,65
stands a chance to get

463
00:40:10,66 --> 00:40:17,46
a density bonus or not you want that it
would be nice if we had I mean just press

464
00:40:17,47 --> 00:40:24,20
not seen of it so it's tough to make that
decision for say I'd I'd like to I'd like

465
00:40:24,21 --> 00:40:28,85
to go back and see what what the decision
was and what would be the dollar value

466
00:40:28,86 --> 00:40:35,11
was for all the awards changes have
an idea what that was let's go be

467
00:40:35,12 --> 00:40:37,29
a little more complicated
is it for us to put it into

468
00:40:37,30 --> 00:40:41,99
a fund which I think is what they use update
the field field lights and ultimately

469
00:40:42,00 --> 00:40:46,39
he then changed it over and
I think that's what he did

470
00:40:47,87 --> 00:40:52,95
a series I don't know if you're going to
be able to come up with a thank you mind

471
00:40:52,96 --> 00:40:54,37
a mental edge a true mind

472
00:40:54,56 --> 00:40:58,76
a monetary figure you may be able to but
I'm not sure I think we had one of one

473
00:40:58,77 --> 00:41:05,20
point time you know that. Well I think
there may be one generally in terms of

474
00:41:05,21 --> 00:41:11,73
comparing what the developer spent to do
phase three of the trail. Compared to the

475
00:41:11,74 --> 00:41:16,91
density build it was because as you say the
whole project evolved to there were two

476
00:41:16,92 --> 00:41:22,81
or three different alternative approaches
to get the density of over the so. At one

477
00:41:22,82 --> 00:41:28,51
point it was the or fifty five units and
then that that changed when the trail was

478
00:41:28,52 --> 00:41:31,48
identified as as you know I think
with a pretty sure there was

479
00:41:31,49 --> 00:41:35,35
a price for the trail that we had at one
point time yeah which would be interesting

480
00:41:35,36 --> 00:41:40,85
to see compared to this I mean I don't
think the number is. Looking at the number

481
00:41:40,86 --> 00:41:45,27
it is you know would never do that type
thing I mean I think it's relatively close

482
00:41:45,28 --> 00:41:48,50
I don't know if it's the final number per
say that I'd be happy with but I don't

483
00:41:48,51 --> 00:41:53,31
think it's for me I don't think it's
it was that much different than my

484
00:41:53,32 --> 00:41:59,36
recollection of what the trail was but I
could be wrong about the same cost of what

485
00:41:59,37 --> 00:42:03,72
the coal feels like they were going to do
one day originally side the wall and they

486
00:42:03,73 --> 00:42:10,28
drill at that so it's and again I
don't I don't I don't they number on

487
00:42:10,29 --> 00:42:14,23
a stance and they get I mean listen to this
one Percentage wise and I mean you know

488
00:42:14,24 --> 00:42:15,17
the thing that we talked about to

489
00:42:15,18 --> 00:42:20,53
a certain extent although it's not part of
the density bonus per se but we had and

490
00:42:20,54 --> 00:42:25,11
we had talked to Mike about this before
in terms of looking at making some. Some

491
00:42:25,12 --> 00:42:26,60
modifications repairs to be

492
00:42:26,65 --> 00:42:30,13
a street and you know if we were doing not
looking at the number I mean you know I

493
00:42:30,14 --> 00:42:32,75
to me I you need to take a look at
all those things in terms of making

494
00:42:32,76 --> 00:42:39,17
a final decision so you know again I get
the feeling number is relatively close I

495
00:42:39,18 --> 00:42:41,85
mean if we were doing other stuff on
Beaver street to try to make that street

496
00:42:41,86 --> 00:42:42,52
a little bit bigger

497
00:42:42,53 --> 00:42:46,74
a little bit wider and doing some more to
improve that slightly I don't know the

498
00:42:46,78 --> 00:42:52,55
numbers are far off if you're talking
about the restricted north of the

499
00:42:52,56 --> 00:42:58,86
intersection. The narrow Yes the narrow
Yes yes range between us and maple in the

500
00:42:58,87 --> 00:43:03,69
settlements and. Well even the curve down
the other section I believe that I think

501
00:43:03,70 --> 00:43:08,02
the curve would be I you know I remember
looking at the curve I think one of five

502
00:43:08,03 --> 00:43:11,92
years ago dangerous than the effect of
that even though the straightaway is not

503
00:43:11,96 --> 00:43:16,22
favorable one of the curves is too narrow
and the other is to lie to you it's just

504
00:43:16,72 --> 00:43:23,60
so on so you'd be one instance
the right of way is not even I

505
00:43:23,61 --> 00:43:30,30
mean to me when you're not even in the right
way well that's one of the exceptions

506
00:43:30,31 --> 00:43:35,33
actually planted level so I should think
you know but it's not but it's on the I

507
00:43:35,34 --> 00:43:40,77
think the initial It's it's over done up
here but you know why not because of our

508
00:43:40,78 --> 00:43:46,49
seniors and they do want to be in the
elevations are probably pretty decent but to

509
00:43:46,50 --> 00:43:51,10
that point depending upon which section
of the road you're talking about widening

510
00:43:51,82 --> 00:43:56,45
there may not be sufficient right of way
to do it anyway so now you're looking at

511
00:43:56,46 --> 00:44:01,91
that taking requiring right the property
which may or may not be easy on the other

512
00:44:01,92 --> 00:44:05,40
side I don't I don't know what I mean may
not be able to do much but on the side

513
00:44:05,41 --> 00:44:09,63
from Maple Street to the Bellingham line
that small six year front I think is

514
00:44:09,93 --> 00:44:14,94
obviously the Dharmic owns that portion
and there's sections in there that I know

515
00:44:14,95 --> 00:44:19,66
are bad that we could probably make some
improvements on and the other one will as

516
00:44:19,67 --> 00:44:22,19
we get a new one piece for all those are

517
00:44:22,20 --> 00:44:25,47
a lot of that was changes
and we always left

518
00:44:25,48 --> 00:44:31,91
a ten ten foot construction these were so
some of them to do have the construction

519
00:44:31,92 --> 00:44:38,27
easement we did that on Beaver issue we
did that on central street and you know

520
00:44:38,28 --> 00:44:42,77
it's one of the but as mentioned there are
just there are areas within this section

521
00:44:42,78 --> 00:44:49,08
here where there is significant area
between the edge of pavement and the stone

522
00:44:49,09 --> 00:44:53,66
wall you know so that right though there
is act there is additional room to let me

523
00:44:53,67 --> 00:44:57,26
go way out at least thirty three
thirty four feet maybe more.

524
00:45:00,87 --> 00:45:07,71
This is. So I was usually dealing
in any. It's something you need to

525
00:45:07,72 --> 00:45:11,30
really look at because sometimes you
start winding the roads and makes

526
00:45:11,31 --> 00:45:15,05
a tragical fascinating how it doesn't
make the traffic go faster but then they

527
00:45:15,06 --> 00:45:19,92
should asses it also encourages the trucks
that you don't want to be able to travel

528
00:45:19,93 --> 00:45:24,64
through this I mean I can right now like
you did here in specific to the one where

529
00:45:24,65 --> 00:45:29,31
some of these cars from the got towards
Wellingham certainly looking at that in

530
00:45:29,32 --> 00:45:34,19
terms of improves. You know the other side
of me made me look at my I mean I think

531
00:45:34,20 --> 00:45:38,59
Thomas is trying to convince people to
take Maple Street not go that way well if

532
00:45:38,60 --> 00:45:44,57
they can if we if we improve that section
that me that may go away so but I but I

533
00:45:44,58 --> 00:45:48,29
definitely think the section from Maple
Street. Through the front of the

534
00:45:48,30 --> 00:45:50,87
development through through some of the
curves could be improved slightly and I

535
00:45:50,88 --> 00:45:55,90
don't again as I said to Mike that that
design was done many many years ago and I

536
00:45:55,91 --> 00:45:59,14
wouldn't go to that level but I think
there can be some improvements made to

537
00:45:59,15 --> 00:46:05,40
improve some of site distances exercise
we have some problems yet so we can take

538
00:46:05,41 --> 00:46:09,05
a look at that absolutely your producers
are one of you to get at least get

539
00:46:09,06 --> 00:46:14,20
a consensus so went away which we should
go anyway because of course I'm sorry I

540
00:46:14,21 --> 00:46:18,85
want to comment you're right up about the
schools and that's one thing about these

541
00:46:18,86 --> 00:46:25,79
for the plan residential. Development
is hardly any school to fix

542
00:46:26,13 --> 00:46:32,84
if you get four pool school kids out of one
hundred forty seven units so below zero

543
00:46:32,85 --> 00:46:37,81
all the plans residential developments
in the county I think have like

544
00:46:37,82 --> 00:46:40,55
a total of nine you had time to design

545
00:46:40,56 --> 00:46:46,26
a student to small to be frank with you.
You don't think I don't think it's going

546
00:46:46,27 --> 00:46:51,03
to be overly distinguishable concern that
I was soon that the school bus one way or

547
00:46:51,04 --> 00:46:55,30
another could be coming from Casey picking
up from the residential neighborhood if

548
00:46:55,31 --> 00:46:59,91
you will and I don't think the advent of
school children on the school buses are

549
00:46:59,92 --> 00:47:05,95
going to be significant as I recall being
on that board several years ago those

550
00:47:05,96 --> 00:47:10,50
classes would have a full Any how. So
I don't think that that's going to be

551
00:47:10,51 --> 00:47:17,16
a tremendous influx one way or
the other just regular just

552
00:47:17,82 --> 00:47:24,74
you know for Dominick's benefit or some
consensus that might be right that all

553
00:47:24,76 --> 00:47:29,22
are you talking about what he wants to do
know in terms of the project and whether

554
00:47:29,24 --> 00:47:35,20
or not the project generally is is
acceptable. I don't know would you say

555
00:47:35,21 --> 00:47:39,67
philosophically as opposed to whatever the
dollar amount might be and whether or

556
00:47:39,68 --> 00:47:44,89
not that by itself irrespective of the
dollar amount would qualify sufficient.

557
00:47:46,42 --> 00:47:51,71
Or are the road improvements something
that's supposed to be added on to that or

558
00:47:51,74 --> 00:47:55,76
just so he has an idea of which direction
to take I get if I'm listening to what

559
00:47:55,78 --> 00:48:01,44
the board suggesting I think that in theory
the five seventeen in that ballpark is

560
00:48:01,45 --> 00:48:06,68
reminiscent of what Wilder would propose
again not getting overly specific but I

561
00:48:06,69 --> 00:48:10,27
think it's reminiscent to what what they
proposed I think what the board's also

562
00:48:10,28 --> 00:48:16,85
looking for in terms of trying to
improve some of the roads at that

563
00:48:16,92 --> 00:48:21,61
directly or in control of it or in his
possession right now that he would perhaps

564
00:48:21,62 --> 00:48:26,53
be able to without any type of legal
maneuvering in terms of land taking I think

565
00:48:26,54 --> 00:48:27,11
they're looking for

566
00:48:27,12 --> 00:48:33,56
a combination of that and some sort of field
improvements if I'm understanding what

567
00:48:33,57 --> 00:48:39,97
what I heard so I think yeah I mean I
that's tough statement to make in that I

568
00:48:39,98 --> 00:48:44,16
don't know what the magnitude of the road
treatments would be you know but he said

569
00:48:44,17 --> 00:48:46,03
I don't I don't want to turn that into

570
00:48:46,04 --> 00:48:49,40
a highway but I think there are sections
you know where the December curves that

571
00:48:49,41 --> 00:48:52,99
can be you know but that being said I don't
know what the mantra to work is of some

572
00:48:53,00 --> 00:48:54,29
of came back to me and
so that's a million and

573
00:48:54,30 --> 00:48:57,07
a half dollars just to get to that point
that I don't know that I'm you know that

574
00:48:57,08 --> 00:49:00,06
I'm worried about this number as much per
se but I mean if it's something that we

575
00:49:00,07 --> 00:49:00,98
can do it you know what

576
00:49:00,99 --> 00:49:07,93
a base number than yeah so it I think
I don't know. Well knowing that of

577
00:49:07,94 --> 00:49:12,27
the number large it's just it's tough to
tell all the woods was one hundred sixty

578
00:49:12,28 --> 00:49:17,06
five units this is one hundred forty what
seven hundred forty seven with the bonus

579
00:49:17,31 --> 00:49:22,58
so they also paid a fee in the beginning
itself while you have to challenge

580
00:49:22,59 --> 00:49:27,63
a number to try to. Just sit here and say
conclusively that we're talking the same

581
00:49:27,64 --> 00:49:32,15
I think it's the only thing we'll be able
to compare directly is the trail costs

582
00:49:32,40 --> 00:49:38,74
compared to the estimate for the for the
field fields and then again you get the

583
00:49:38,75 --> 00:49:42,13
difference in density of the two
developments but I don't have

584
00:49:42,14 --> 00:49:46,68
a problem with the number again I'd
like to see as a as a developer

585
00:49:46,69 --> 00:49:48,04
a missed one so does

586
00:49:48,05 --> 00:49:53,94
a good job and let's see if we could do
something to improve the road father for

587
00:49:53,95 --> 00:50:00,49
the neighbors and for the time. Yeah like
just like Joe said don't want or don't

588
00:50:00,49 --> 00:50:01,36
want to judge of

589
00:50:01,36 --> 00:50:07,63
a high cost of one hundred fifty one million
one point five million but to see what

590
00:50:07,65 --> 00:50:13,48
he could do if my can find out what the
layout is of everything then he have some

591
00:50:13,49 --> 00:50:20,35
idea what he could do well I think I think
what we need is we need some sort of

592
00:50:20,36 --> 00:50:25,55
direction regarding the density bonus and
if it's if it's going to happen then

593
00:50:25,83 --> 00:50:32,30
changes his his outlook is so as to how
much he can afford to do because he's going

594
00:50:32,31 --> 00:50:33,50
to actually generate

595
00:50:33,54 --> 00:50:38,57
a little bit more profit but if we don't
if we're going back to ninety seven units

596
00:50:39,02 --> 00:50:39,100
then dental then

597
00:50:40,01 --> 00:50:43,75
a lot changes you know we we've got you
know we're reducing the amount of traffic

598
00:50:43,76 --> 00:50:49,46
in the right way and I think that I think
it's not an issue. Of standards and I

599
00:50:49,47 --> 00:50:52,81
think that's not the issue I
think the inch The issue is

600
00:50:56,63 --> 00:51:01,70
is number greater than five seventeen
is it five seventeen plus some. Road

601
00:51:01,71 --> 00:51:04,93
improvements but we don't know what the
road improvements entails so we're not

602
00:51:04,94 --> 00:51:08,62
trying to be difficult in telling you
you have to do both is that perhaps

603
00:51:08,80 --> 00:51:13,27
monetarily wouldn't work just point so
it's not I don't think you're hearing

604
00:51:13,31 --> 00:51:18,46
opposition in terms of it's all the sense
of the I think what you're hearing is

605
00:51:19,78 --> 00:51:24,60
let's see what's the best for the the
neighborhood and what's going to be most

606
00:51:24,61 --> 00:51:30,87
sensible for the roadway and then let's
also then look at the the improvements that

607
00:51:30,88 --> 00:51:35,61
you want to do for the community but I
think that I think the basic point you are

608
00:51:35,62 --> 00:51:40,64
doing this for the community and although
maybe the average person wouldn't be able

609
00:51:40,65 --> 00:51:44,74
to touch feel it or see it for those who
live up there it's just it's extremely

610
00:51:44,75 --> 00:51:49,95
important so I think that's what we're
looking for we're not discussing we're not I

611
00:51:49,96 --> 00:51:55,07
don't think anyone suggesting that the
bonus density is is is an reasonable what

612
00:51:55,08 --> 00:52:00,39
we're suggesting is in terms of your
bonus density let's look at what's most

613
00:52:00,40 --> 00:52:06,71
favorable to the community including
those who live there today that

614
00:52:06,72 --> 00:52:11,74
a fair statement to be getting things done
now so my my question is whether or not

615
00:52:11,75 --> 00:52:13,91
the time engineer what is the need for

616
00:52:13,92 --> 00:52:19,95
a time frame to be able to. Put together
something that's going to lay out and come

617
00:52:19,96 --> 00:52:23,32
up with something I mean the next meeting
is on the sixth that we're looking is

618
00:52:23,33 --> 00:52:28,79
that is that. You soon or you tell me but
I think we can work together if there's

619
00:52:28,80 --> 00:52:32,44
a lot of information certainly between
ages you have just referenced that he

620
00:52:32,45 --> 00:52:37,72
designed we can work together and we'll see
what the time frame is going to do and

621
00:52:37,73 --> 00:52:41,32
we want to try to feel when we are do you
think he's going to do you know I'm just

622
00:52:41,33 --> 00:52:45,78
trying to I don't want to continue to the
sixth and then you'll have to you know

623
00:52:45,79 --> 00:52:49,09
have anywhere not be enough time to get
everything squared away also meeting I'm

624
00:52:49,10 --> 00:52:50,42
going to the circus really need like

625
00:52:50,43 --> 00:52:53,48
a meeting if you want to look at that stuff
I guess it really is what I have you

626
00:52:53,49 --> 00:52:56,88
have to make decisions what right do we
not like that to be the base and we have

627
00:52:56,89 --> 00:53:00,01
the right away and everything figured out
so I think we need to work together and

628
00:53:00,47 --> 00:53:03,71
try to figure out you know where we're
going to do really good committing in June

629
00:53:03,72 --> 00:53:09,48
work you know obviously we have you know I
mean it's kind of got more down and here

630
00:53:09,49 --> 00:53:13,85
he wants to I'm asking I'm going for
someone to well he wants to see with

631
00:53:16,27 --> 00:53:23,25
my. Life. Because

632
00:53:23,26 --> 00:53:29,29
one two things we need I need to know when
the be workin with those units when they

633
00:53:29,30 --> 00:53:33,11
change the single family hour show I
will not go with ninety seven plus some

634
00:53:33,12 --> 00:53:35,10
singles that means I could have

635
00:53:35,11 --> 00:53:41,53
a bunch of that I waste coming from Bieber
street right now I could have cut that

636
00:53:42,11 --> 00:53:46,10
and lots and usually goes in families
make a bunch of lots you have

637
00:53:46,11 --> 00:53:50,42
a bunch of that I wish I know but
that's why I want to land I could have

638
00:53:50,43 --> 00:53:54,91
a buncha lots on the front well front page
you look at it from there all the way up

639
00:53:54,92 --> 00:54:01,44
it's front page. You will you
live in that right OK then.

640
00:54:02,50 --> 00:54:06,49
And if you could live there are the people
who live that don't but this was me but

641
00:54:06,50 --> 00:54:10,05
it's not the way it is I could never make
what's on the other side of the other

642
00:54:10,06 --> 00:54:13,96
thing I told I need to now each
direction I want to go it again under

643
00:54:13,97 --> 00:54:18,50
a second meaning OK I understand one thing
terms in terms of the bonus density

644
00:54:18,54 --> 00:54:23,49
you're not getting opposition in terms of
that what we're trying to understand and

645
00:54:23,50 --> 00:54:25,70
what we're trying to do is come up with

646
00:54:25,71 --> 00:54:32,36
a bonus density plan that's
agreeable to all so that you're not

647
00:54:32,37 --> 00:54:37,27
stuck to Joe's point from even the half
would you go to say you know OK so we're

648
00:54:37,28 --> 00:54:41,44
trying to make something viable so that
you're happy they're happy and then the

649
00:54:41,45 --> 00:54:44,92
community gets something that's what we're
trying to figure out and the only way to

650
00:54:44,93 --> 00:54:49,37
do that is based on engineering which I
can draw the lines but that's as good as

651
00:54:49,38 --> 00:54:53,98
they are they don't mean anything so clearly
we need the expertise of these two and

652
00:54:53,99 --> 00:54:59,99
we're just trying to sensibly say is the
second meeting in June more favorable

653
00:55:00,00 --> 00:55:01,99
hoping that when you come back you'll have

654
00:55:02,00 --> 00:55:05,68
a definitive idea of exactly what's going
to work what it's going to cost and that

655
00:55:05,69 --> 00:55:10,06
we can talk more intelligently or we're
going to try to push it for the first week

656
00:55:10,07 --> 00:55:13,89
in June and say oh by the way we need an
extension so what we're trying to say to

657
00:55:13,90 --> 00:55:18,67
you is let's try to be intelligent say
the second meeting in June fine and

658
00:55:19,00 --> 00:55:25,87
everything like that or
not it was so. Perfect So

659
00:55:25,88 --> 00:55:30,38
what's the date of the second meeting injury
three point eight So what we're going

660
00:55:30,39 --> 00:55:35,41
to do we're going to continue this meeting
to June twentieth again assuming seven

661
00:55:35,42 --> 00:55:40,42
zero one seven zero two some like that but.
At that time you heard the discussion.

662
00:55:41,89 --> 00:55:43,46
Hopefully you know you'll see

663
00:55:44,20 --> 00:55:49,49
a plan that's not necessarily changing and
density which changing and perhaps the

664
00:55:49,50 --> 00:55:54,42
layout of the road that hopefully will
favor the neighborhood right at the So I

665
00:55:54,57 --> 00:56:00,59
think you. Thank you that's also the
next one you want oh yeah seven

666
00:56:00,60 --> 00:56:05,94
o two Yeah it's our subdivision as well
yeah just for clarity purposes would open

667
00:56:05,95 --> 00:56:06,44
the seven

668
00:56:06,45 --> 00:56:12,59
o two meeting which is. For you if it's
just the same as this is of the year.

669
00:56:13,78 --> 00:56:19,32
My continued public hearing
action about rooting for you.

670
00:56:20,67 --> 00:56:26,49
To play in the two presidential subdivision
looking at. Me two point nine six for

671
00:56:26,73 --> 00:56:33,07
so long and. Thank you so I motion from
Joe second to HI John to continue.

672
00:56:34,43 --> 00:56:38,98
Public hearings until June would you say
twenty if you do that seven zero one seven

673
00:56:38,99 --> 00:56:43,94
zero two All right well we don't know for
sure specifically I'm not positive on the

674
00:56:43,95 --> 00:56:46,42
time but it wouldn't
surprise me because it's

675
00:56:46,79 --> 00:56:53,71
a discussion on that there are none at
all in favor like John John Joe and then

676
00:56:53,71 --> 00:56:54,12
John had

677
00:56:54,12 --> 00:57:01,61
a bill this week and. All

678
00:57:01,62 --> 00:57:08,32
right. We did. We have.
No I think they should

679
00:57:08,40 --> 00:57:09,35
rightly the way it's

680
00:57:09,36 --> 00:57:13,77
a yes no I mean they can all have OK
religion you know said you know if I do

681
00:57:13,78 --> 00:57:18,62
something that's right I mean that you
know for me guiding in four percent

682
00:57:18,63 --> 00:57:23,34
reduction in reclaiming the party three
hundred fifty three Main Street.

683
00:57:28,84 --> 00:57:35,63
Is going to go Bob and I. Read some
of these letters the submittal

684
00:57:35,89 --> 00:57:36,19
this for

685
00:57:36,20 --> 00:57:42,44
a special permit for parking reduction
provisioning I was. In the methods I plan

686
00:57:42,45 --> 00:57:45,70
for the proposed swim school building
to be constructed in place of

687
00:57:45,71 --> 00:57:52,13
a previously approved office building. Site
consists of six point seven eight acre

688
00:57:52,23 --> 00:57:57,92
parcel of land located in two sounds I
weigh neighborhood industrial C I see

689
00:57:58,77 --> 00:58:00,16
highway industrial B.

690
00:58:00,17 --> 00:58:00,39
I

691
00:58:00,40 --> 00:58:07,42
b assessors map thirty two block ninety
eight Wotte twenty three. The special

692
00:58:07,43 --> 00:58:13,43
permit is by reduction of parking
spaces by forty seven spaces this is

693
00:58:13,44 --> 00:58:16,65
a lot under the town's zoning by
law Section three four one B.

694
00:58:16,66 --> 00:58:23,62
Three ship parking following several
informal discussions and meeting the revised

695
00:58:23,75 --> 00:58:28,85
amended my plan should address the problem
comments before the planning board

696
00:58:28,86 --> 00:58:34,64
approved the application he proposed
building should be shifted Southwest to

697
00:58:34,72 --> 00:58:40,79
increase the landscape sidewalk area on
the north east of the building in the

698
00:58:40,83 --> 00:58:46,47
entrance area of the building location of
the proposed accessible spaces should be

699
00:58:46,48 --> 00:58:52,28
further evaluated to determine if the spaces
can be located closer to the entrance

700
00:58:52,98 --> 00:58:58,96
the building I would apartment is
reviewed and sees everything to be

701
00:58:58,97 --> 00:59:01,35
satisfactory by

702
00:59:01,36 --> 00:59:07,61
a chief has no requests
for changes. Commission.

703
00:59:09,73 --> 00:59:13,85
That's once again. It's an issue
not because this event commission

704
00:59:13,86 --> 00:59:15,05
a disability supports

705
00:59:15,06 --> 00:59:22,03
a plan for thirteen total excess will space
fluting to. The new swim school main

706
00:59:22,04 --> 00:59:25,15
entrance or reviewing
the plan we noted H.P.

707
00:59:25,16 --> 00:59:28,94
Signage indication. Maybe an error

708
00:59:29,02 --> 00:59:32,97
a third excess will space at the swim
school where were introduced appearing on

709
00:59:32,98 --> 00:59:38,50
Sheet C four zero perhaps the signage
reef reference should be removed.

710
00:59:42,34 --> 00:59:49,13
Home before you. Have Bob do his presentation
just to point out that the decision

711
00:59:49,14 --> 00:59:53,54
in the draft decision that you have the
package I didn't read that you know I mean

712
00:59:53,54 --> 01:00:00,39
. It was done prior to the latest revisions
on the planet white and red but it's

713
01:00:00,40 --> 01:00:06,45
substantially correct in terms of the
findings the specific reference to the

714
01:00:06,75 --> 01:00:13,64
revision dates. And the percentage. We
need to be adjusted to what Bob's going to

715
01:00:13,90 --> 01:00:20,24
that's for my part because it to me Take
it away and take Thank you so this is the

716
01:00:20,25 --> 01:00:22,75
plaza at the corner of Fortune move on

717
01:00:22,76 --> 01:00:28,74
a nice mainstreet. This is the
existing daycare area here Rick

718
01:00:28,75 --> 01:00:32,00
a school the proposal is to construct

719
01:00:32,01 --> 01:00:36,91
a swim school building here and also is

720
01:00:36,92 --> 01:00:42,18
a proposed addition to the in this it was
building in this location here originally

721
01:00:42,19 --> 01:00:44,51
this portion of the
site was designated for

722
01:00:44,52 --> 01:00:49,85
a three story office building had previously
been approved and the area had been

723
01:00:50,16 --> 01:00:55,46
prepared for the pad back in like two
thousand and six but nothing has ever been

724
01:00:55,47 --> 01:01:01,27
constructed so much of this area is already
in repaired and graded the way. The

725
01:01:01,28 --> 01:01:04,74
changes were made according to the
letter the building was shifted in this

726
01:01:04,75 --> 01:01:05,86
direction for

727
01:01:05,87 --> 01:01:11,18
a green space between parking between the
sidewalk in the in the building I can

728
01:01:11,19 --> 01:01:16,22
hear. That the front entrance is he
kept it in place in this area he has

729
01:01:16,23 --> 01:01:18,95
a ramp and make the ramp or.

730
01:01:23,50 --> 01:01:25,53
So the state we're requesting

731
01:01:25,54 --> 01:01:32,39
a bit of. Notice actually said eighteen
for eighteen point four percent reduction

732
01:01:32,86 --> 01:01:37,39
we reworked this area here in this entrance
and we did the parking calculations we

733
01:01:37,40 --> 01:01:40,07
actually only need a seventeen
point five reduction

734
01:01:40,19 --> 01:01:45,27
a percent reduction in the parking and
we do that because we actually have with

735
01:01:45,28 --> 01:01:51,09
this with this proposal we have seven
different businesses that will be here which

736
01:01:51,36 --> 01:01:53,64
under the Byelaws us to do

737
01:01:53,65 --> 01:01:58,29
a twenty percent reduction we're doing
away with for seventeen point five.

738
01:02:01,06 --> 01:02:02,95
This is the main building will be

739
01:02:02,96 --> 01:02:07,06
a swim school where you basically have
teach swimming lessons which will be

740
01:02:07,07 --> 01:02:10,83
a. Key just elaborate of not just just

741
01:02:10,84 --> 01:02:17,37
a bit terms of like I hate it you know
it's off explanatory but because it's so

742
01:02:17,38 --> 01:02:18,47
self-explanatory

743
01:02:18,48 --> 01:02:24,50
a puzzle by it is one of these things that
open and all throughout the day or is it

744
01:02:26,07 --> 01:02:26,70
if you just put

745
01:02:26,71 --> 01:02:33,68
a little clarity to that. You're going

746
01:02:33,69 --> 01:02:40,27
to. Be. Very few

747
01:02:40,56 --> 01:02:46,66
weeks back that you talk into the micro
and. The record again if you could just

748
01:02:46,67 --> 01:02:50,33
give your name. So it is

749
01:02:50,34 --> 01:02:55,38
a swim school and it is children some lessons
from ages four months to twelve years

750
01:02:55,39 --> 01:02:59,69
of age it is open seven days

751
01:02:59,70 --> 01:03:06,63
a week not all day all night but. Usually
about eight o'clock at night so the peak

752
01:03:06,64 --> 01:03:10,92
hours are going to be four to eight in
the evening families when there's also

753
01:03:10,93 --> 01:03:16,22
families one time as well we do
birthday parties you know on weekends.

754
01:03:18,43 --> 01:03:20,22
And it's

755
01:03:20,24 --> 01:03:26,09
a franchise so more. Of a good day on

756
01:03:26,10 --> 01:03:32,88
a good day night. Their progeny
ninety eight peak forty

757
01:03:32,89 --> 01:03:38,40
eight yeah yeah and do we. I suggest
looking for clarity up comes

758
01:03:38,41 --> 01:03:44,09
a bonus density in absentia traffic but
yeah I get it it's not so simple that it

759
01:03:44,10 --> 01:03:49,92
was intriguing Dutch OK Thank you Art
You're welcome good bye I'm sorry you can

760
01:03:49,93 --> 01:03:54,65
sign. Drawn on Mondays I do.

761
01:03:57,85 --> 01:04:04,52
So. Usually we're just looking to finalize
the development of this particular phase

762
01:04:04,53 --> 01:04:09,40
of this project by. The last
remaining Pad site instead of

763
01:04:09,41 --> 01:04:15,00
a three story office building just going
to have some one story restaurant retail

764
01:04:15,01 --> 01:04:20,46
dry cleaner and then this this one school
thank you. Questions from the board

765
01:04:24,18 --> 01:04:26,97
see that this is a public meeting
once I can see that this is

766
01:04:26,99 --> 01:04:30,61
a public meeting as are any
person in the audience and has

767
01:04:30,61 --> 01:04:37,50
a question relative to
this one Oh OK Yes Larry

768
01:04:37,72 --> 01:04:40,65
Well I'm just going to point
out and Bob touch started

769
01:04:40,66 --> 01:04:46,81
a bit. Three buildings are the building
with the three uses by the daycare

770
01:04:47,47 --> 01:04:52,39
building that had previously been approved
as well but the site plan on that has

771
01:04:52,40 --> 01:04:53,61
lapsed as well as

772
01:04:53,93 --> 01:04:58,90
a plan on the three story building. That
had been located where this building is

773
01:04:58,91 --> 01:05:05,28
being proposed so this particular proposal
is as far as the site plan goes includes

774
01:05:05,29 --> 01:05:11,11
all of that so that that everything
automatically Orange will re up and keep that

775
01:05:11,67 --> 01:05:18,64
platform. We're. Talking about
deletion for said we should

776
01:05:18,65 --> 01:05:22,03
we don't have it out you know
by law I know what you mean for

777
01:05:22,04 --> 01:05:24,73
a swim or swim school grounds that was

778
01:05:24,74 --> 01:05:30,34
a that was something that I'd researched
and. Came up with recreational as like

779
01:05:30,35 --> 01:05:35,68
a gym when she's refers to. Well I was
as well and so forth Yeah as opposed to

780
01:05:35,69 --> 01:05:40,42
square footage floor area the ratio was to
the size of the pool because that's what

781
01:05:40,43 --> 01:05:46,03
generates the the turnover generates the
activity so I think it was a don't have

782
01:05:46,04 --> 01:05:51,45
a right for me. It's on the play and believe
me I look so it looks like the we use

783
01:05:51,46 --> 01:05:58,08
something I love thirty spaces per thousand
square feet as as I said as once one

784
01:05:58,09 --> 01:06:04,27
space for at least thirty square feet every
square feet of pool area. You will see

785
01:06:04,28 --> 01:06:07,86
I got the pool area fourteen thousand
people because we divided by thirty so we

786
01:06:07,87 --> 01:06:11,63
have right bill by one space with thirty
square feet of poor What was what was

787
01:06:11,64 --> 01:06:17,100
forty seven spaces in
and. We also had. One

788
01:06:18,01 --> 01:06:23,95
space per thirty which include there per
year for the building one yet and. So

789
01:06:24,11 --> 01:06:29,99
forty seven spaces is what we're what
we're showing that required fifty

790
01:06:34,78 --> 01:06:41,48
or allowing fifty spaces for that building
that was the ratio I recommend they use

791
01:06:41,49 --> 01:06:45,52
because I have my research and I think I
think you Tobie reference that this is not

792
01:06:45,89 --> 01:06:46,17
this is

793
01:06:46,18 --> 01:06:50,89
a franchise I'm assuming that the fifty
spots are more than ample for you typical

794
01:06:50,90 --> 01:06:56,10
use so yeah based on the applicant I would
have to agree yeah she would not I would

795
01:06:56,11 --> 01:07:02,14
hope that you would offer your clientele
and the other persons from the board

796
01:07:03,88 --> 01:07:06,40
pleasure the board remember have to close

797
01:07:06,41 --> 01:07:12,69
a public meeting. If we close
but we're hearing in. Our

798
01:07:13,44 --> 01:07:17,11
motion by John close public
hearing and vote favorably of

799
01:07:17,12 --> 01:07:23,76
a second option second by we know that
seventeen point five percent seventy point

800
01:07:23,77 --> 01:07:26,73
five reduction Yes these
are right secondly that

801
01:07:26,74 --> 01:07:31,95
a further discussion here or not I would
favor oppose it and I must thank you they

802
01:07:31,96 --> 01:07:38,70
didn't do it until the twenty day if you
really. Think you. Sure you give it to be

803
01:07:38,86 --> 01:07:44,88
that. Is all I have to tweet this oh yeah
that's right I don't need these and it

804
01:07:44,89 --> 01:07:47,49
will be changing meaning I don't read

805
01:07:47,50 --> 01:07:54,26
a lot I read the leading. Right character
like OK this is really trying to

806
01:07:54,32 --> 01:07:58,81
see she's actually just me and I think
Asians and they can be seven point six

807
01:07:59,37 --> 01:08:04,90
million residents. OK. It's.

808
01:08:07,82 --> 01:08:11,79
Just a little for a few modifications
and a few of these cross approaches

809
01:08:11,80 --> 01:08:18,26
a marriage kind of been in development
market modification is for those parking

810
01:08:18,27 --> 01:08:22,50
areas consisting of twelve parking
spaces five hundred feet of sidewalk in

811
01:08:22,51 --> 01:08:27,93
a five by ten shelter the parking area is
located near the east major Eaton Zane

812
01:08:28,04 --> 01:08:33,19
circle intersection to allow for the parking
of vehicles in close proximity to the

813
01:08:33,20 --> 01:08:39,26
school bus stop submitted documents are
petition for special permit cover letter

814
01:08:39,27 --> 01:08:44,63
and drainage calculations special permit
plan of land over at Mass dated April

815
01:08:44,64 --> 01:08:51,54
twenty fourth twenty seven seem. To
be this but he did it because that

816
01:08:52,01 --> 01:08:58,07
site inspection was before in the May ninth
twenty seventeen following an informal

817
01:08:58,08 --> 01:09:01,97
conversation with the applicant's designer
requesting some minor changes to the

818
01:09:01,98 --> 01:09:07,61
site plan via the town planner plans
should be revised to address the following

819
01:09:07,62 --> 01:09:14,07
comments the plan should show the existing
utility pole that is in close proximity

820
01:09:14,08 --> 01:09:20,01
to the proposed bust shelter for detailed
grading Spart elevation should be shown

821
01:09:20,05 --> 01:09:25,44
around the proposed bus shelter dimensions
should be shown from the edge of the

822
01:09:25,45 --> 01:09:29,44
proposed parking area that to the property
line and the edge of the right away

823
01:09:29,45 --> 01:09:34,33
typical dimensions of the parking stall
in drive aisles should be shown.

824
01:09:36,73 --> 01:09:36,94
Me

825
01:09:36,95 --> 01:09:43,59
a mike is therefore recommending approval
subject to those comments. The five chief

826
01:09:43,60 --> 01:09:50,53
has NO NO changes requested for
this house on disability as no

827
01:09:50,54 --> 01:09:56,09
comments. On

828
01:09:56,10 --> 01:09:59,32
a company as dot com is

829
01:09:59,33 --> 01:10:06,16
a kind of comments as well. But he would

830
01:10:06,17 --> 01:10:09,79
address the letter would you like me
to read it you know I took home to my

831
01:10:13,77 --> 01:10:20,31
own behalf Michael I know that's why you
didn't just do it OK we didn't have my

832
01:10:20,32 --> 01:10:24,92
plans I was in rich kind of area so CA ssion
I'm submitting an application for the

833
01:10:24,93 --> 01:10:26,94
modification to existing P.R.

834
01:10:26,95 --> 01:10:31,06
The special permit yappin is
reposing to construct D.P.

835
01:10:31,07 --> 01:10:32,66
Parking area to be used as

836
01:10:32,67 --> 01:10:37,32
a drop off location for children living in
the development away from the school bus

837
01:10:38,06 --> 01:10:39,95
five hundred foot long sidewalk in

838
01:10:39,96 --> 01:10:45,63
a partially enclosed bus stop structure are
being proposed construction will result

839
01:10:45,64 --> 01:10:46,34
in the increase of

840
01:10:46,35 --> 01:10:51,84
a pervious area of approx We've point
one three acres. Now it says has been

841
01:10:51,85 --> 01:10:55,39
performed to determine the effect of the
proposed project on the existing storm

842
01:10:55,40 --> 01:11:00,80
want to structure in is included based on
the calculation the additional flow will

843
01:11:00,81 --> 01:11:05,77
not have an adverse impact on the existing
strong wannabees and with the adjacent

844
01:11:06,38 --> 01:11:11,95
post development runoff still below pre
development pleasures I look forward to

845
01:11:11,96 --> 01:11:17,60
discussing this project and that's why I'm
here tonight OK thank you so this is the

846
01:11:17,61 --> 01:11:19,18
entrance to the Zane Ridge

847
01:11:19,23 --> 01:11:24,45
a condominium development it's
Main Street St circle Carly. Is

848
01:11:24,46 --> 01:11:26,63
a bus does not go down here
obviously because it's not

849
01:11:26,64 --> 01:11:30,69
a public way so that any children living
in the development need to get the bus at

850
01:11:30,70 --> 01:11:36,35
the end of the street so what is happening
now is that parents who live here in the

851
01:11:36,36 --> 01:11:42,03
development drive up and park starting you
know from the end and probably go away

852
01:11:42,04 --> 01:11:48,95
to this person's driveway here. And wait
for the bus with their children on it

853
01:11:48,96 --> 01:11:53,00
narrows the roadways only twenty four
fifteen twenty twenty four feet so that

854
01:11:53,61 --> 01:12:00,57
people take up half of the lane
away. So the out the proposal

855
01:12:00,58 --> 01:12:04,95
is to construct this paved area
here in this area here currently is

856
01:12:04,96 --> 01:12:11,70
a relatively flat grass lawn
area within the development. And

857
01:12:12,25 --> 01:12:14,85
what we would do is we would put
in a probably five hundred feet

858
01:12:14,86 --> 01:12:21,19
a sidewalk starting at this first interior
driveway running all the way the length

859
01:12:21,47 --> 01:12:26,62
of St circle up to the proposed bus stop
the closure which would be located in this

860
01:12:26,63 --> 01:12:30,97
area here what I he dition to the
last planet in the letter was

861
01:12:30,98 --> 01:12:35,51
a fad of the the location of this or that
of the location of this decorative wall

862
01:12:35,52 --> 01:12:39,15
in the landscape area in this edition
of landscape area with the same ridge

863
01:12:39,16 --> 01:12:44,60
scientists so you can see how everything
plays out with regard to the. For the area

864
01:12:45,36 --> 01:12:51,51
so well so. Real this been several
iterations to this we looked at

865
01:12:52,09 --> 01:12:54,68
whitening the pavement
here and just creating

866
01:12:55,27 --> 01:13:00,35
a geo parking spaces basically when you
do parallel spaces the most you could get

867
01:13:00,36 --> 01:13:04,89
which was fifty eight cars in there but it
was still still wasn't really conducive

868
01:13:05,13 --> 01:13:11,35
to people going in pulling out was in the
safest issue so we thought the safest

869
01:13:11,36 --> 01:13:13,64
issue in discussion with
Larry was to actually create

870
01:13:14,09 --> 01:13:19,02
a parking area where people can come in
off the street. And leave in an orderly

871
01:13:19,03 --> 01:13:24,01
manner and you know with proper radiuses
and curbing everything so you have

872
01:13:24,02 --> 01:13:25,06
a five foot sidewalk

873
01:13:25,98 --> 01:13:31,39
a packing area with the spaces nine by
eighteen as is required by you know religion

874
01:13:32,17 --> 01:13:39,07
and a and a bus stop thank
you both saying that this is

875
01:13:39,08 --> 01:13:43,05
a public see I'm. Going
to assume that this is

876
01:13:43,06 --> 01:13:47,19
a public meeting is there anyone from the
audience that has question or comment

877
01:13:47,20 --> 01:13:54,05
relative to this. Absurd. Run up you
know fifty one scene circle the

878
01:13:54,06 --> 01:13:58,60
only difference is is that we didn't
finalize this because the town plan

879
01:13:58,88 --> 01:14:02,62
coordinated traffic coordinator
has the it is a busy park this is

880
01:14:02,63 --> 01:14:07,31
a tired area on the street here right up
in the front so the sidewalk would just

881
01:14:07,32 --> 01:14:12,20
continue to that that's the only difference
when you spell your last name a R.P.I.

882
01:14:12,21 --> 01:14:17,88
You know who can you put on the island sorry
sorry no problem so just to get around

883
01:14:17,89 --> 01:14:21,82
this that's all the sidewalk would just
continue this because the coordinator for

884
01:14:21,83 --> 01:14:27,90
the town has said that that's the good just
stop could have all this ice yes. Just

885
01:14:27,91 --> 01:14:28,58
so that it's got

886
01:14:28,59 --> 01:14:31,72
a place where the kid could get on right
in this area right here if you want to

887
01:14:31,73 --> 01:14:37,87
let's sit up by the street that's the problem
sorry oh yeah we did many years down

888
01:14:37,88 --> 01:14:41,82
by the stream side of this yes I think we
just can't decide what would you want and

889
01:14:41,83 --> 01:14:46,83
you want to add additional payment is obvious
and just to pieces sidewalk it so OK

890
01:14:46,84 --> 01:14:52,76
so additional pavement sidewalk will
continue on this right yeah so to the. Bus

891
01:14:52,77 --> 01:14:57,42
caught in that direction but you know
go to the boss Yes Yes OK yeah just

892
01:14:57,43 --> 01:15:01,70
additional small footage which again
will not adversely effect in calculating

893
01:15:01,74 --> 01:15:04,66
actually turn right after an attack is
that actually will drain the other way

894
01:15:04,67 --> 01:15:11,62
that's General green. Acres
and anyone else when we look

895
01:15:11,63 --> 01:15:12,44
at this before didn't have

896
01:15:12,45 --> 01:15:16,57
a parking area down further Yeah well there
were several different versions of this

897
01:15:16,58 --> 01:15:20,21
is different areas like I guess I'm I was
I thought it was turned out this is the

898
01:15:20,22 --> 01:15:23,54
only one I created was I mean it was

899
01:15:23,55 --> 01:15:29,10
a year ago the area that I wanted to own
came around sideways and I would go far in

900
01:15:29,11 --> 01:15:33,07
that it was OK Well but they're very the
original you know one of the original

901
01:15:33,08 --> 01:15:40,00
Street yes yes one of the original
proposals was similar to this the concern

902
01:15:40,01 --> 01:15:44,67
we had was that it was too close to the
street but I don't know if the board ever

903
01:15:44,68 --> 01:15:47,92
saw that version or not but the
board did see a version that had

904
01:15:47,93 --> 01:15:53,44
a parking lot similar to this but it didn't
have any detail to the plan or anything

905
01:15:53,71 --> 01:15:59,49
so our concern was that there was sufficient
offset from the stop line as you're

906
01:15:59,56 --> 01:16:05,68
exceeding the site onto Main Street so
that you'd have some stacking between

907
01:16:05,72 --> 01:16:11,40
a parking lot driveway or not but I think
the primary confusion at the time though

908
01:16:11,41 --> 01:16:17,21
was in terms of. Confusing whether or not

909
01:16:17,51 --> 01:16:23,43
a public hearing needed to be reopened to
make the change if it was that sufficient

910
01:16:23,44 --> 01:16:30,19
or not and there was an attempt I think to
avoid having to do that and that's what

911
01:16:30,20 --> 01:16:35,29
that's what generated several of the interim
plans that had the the browse in the

912
01:16:35,76 --> 01:16:41,25
parallel parking and other schemes but
after looking at it in the end you know

913
01:16:41,26 --> 01:16:46,37
finally. Clarifying that opening the hearing
wasn't the end of the world is just

914
01:16:46,38 --> 01:16:51,63
a legal requirement that you needed to
do. I recommended they come back and do

915
01:16:51,64 --> 01:16:56,97
a normal parking lot that gets all the
maneuvering off of the street granted Zain

916
01:16:56,98 --> 01:16:57,46
circles

917
01:16:57,47 --> 01:17:02,15
a private street but it's still not
appropriate to have all that other traffic

918
01:17:02,73 --> 01:17:04,06
maneuvering going on on

919
01:17:04,07 --> 01:17:10,30
a narrow street so why I recommended the
do what's what's been proposed tonight

920
01:17:10,99 --> 01:17:15,89
to get all of the parking in the maneuvering
off of Zain circle twelve parking

921
01:17:15,90 --> 01:17:21,35
spaces should be sufficient more than
sufficient to handle the traffic that that

922
01:17:21,36 --> 01:17:24,88
they're having problems with now so that's
why it ends up looking the way it looks

923
01:17:25,52 --> 01:17:27,71
and it was located on

924
01:17:27,72 --> 01:17:32,88
a relatively as Bob said relatively level
area but it is far enough back to go from

925
01:17:32,92 --> 01:17:38,82
the intersection with the highway. I also
appreciate that they put the sidewalk as

926
01:17:38,83 --> 01:17:45,32
and yes the sidewalk to reverse
side street side street. And have

927
01:17:45,33 --> 01:17:48,38
a question I guess my only concern is that
relatively close to neighbors and I get

928
01:17:48,39 --> 01:17:53,33
the feeling they going to be packing and
running their engines the whole time of it

929
01:17:53,34 --> 01:17:58,39
the actually if you if you look at that
particular neighborhood you got to

930
01:17:58,40 --> 01:18:00,50
gradually garages arrive there he's

931
01:18:00,51 --> 01:18:04,72
a little bit you will be
helping to park here in

932
01:18:04,91 --> 01:18:10,00
a month he's going to. Buy

933
01:18:10,04 --> 01:18:14,55
a lot of the screen why would you be if
it was just having signs are right that

934
01:18:13,80 --> 01:18:17,23
that. Not title it it just can't be had

935
01:18:17,24 --> 01:18:20,67
a lot of the five minutes absolutely fine
because we can do that with this time

936
01:18:20,68 --> 01:18:22,40
we're going to put you know parking is

937
01:18:22,41 --> 01:18:28,07
a lot of theory that I think Joe's point
we don't want out there are so proud of

938
01:18:28,08 --> 01:18:28,55
you can create

939
01:18:28,56 --> 01:18:34,51
a problem for unable to make obviously
didn't have one existing So if you would

940
01:18:34,52 --> 01:18:41,30
sort of if you would consider putting
that So no I don't past five

941
01:18:41,31 --> 01:18:47,53
minutes no engine I will pass five. I think
that's how they read the other person's

942
01:18:47,54 --> 01:18:48,63
over the little things when you get

943
01:18:48,64 --> 01:18:55,01
a show you can just shut it
off you know. No one will for

944
01:18:55,49 --> 01:18:59,00
the engine idle the engine and I suppose
you do that too but I was trying to be

945
01:18:59,14 --> 01:19:03,67
somewhat fair I was going to go
police in five minutes for how.

946
01:19:06,03 --> 01:19:10,56
Well it's like easy to police you can't
do it if you are going to shut off and I

947
01:19:10,57 --> 01:19:15,42
get it you're posting that no we'll you
know when Tonight I'll do it thank you and

948
01:19:15,43 --> 01:19:19,76
any other questions on the board pleasure
the watershed and you want that added to

949
01:19:19,77 --> 01:19:19,94
yes

950
01:19:19,95 --> 01:19:25,07
a seizure right yes also he's obviously
going to add additional pavement to bring

951
01:19:25,08 --> 01:19:30,35
him out to where the bus actually stops
you have to play a little yes to have

952
01:19:30,36 --> 01:19:37,20
a plan to watch that but yes my adding
to the decision sign to be installed and

953
01:19:37,26 --> 01:19:42,49
maintain prohibiting I don't
know what part I make

954
01:19:42,50 --> 01:19:47,69
a motion. Because the
public hearing is. Approved

955
01:19:47,70 --> 01:19:52,28
a modification to this question might be
because the public hearing and approve the

956
01:19:52,29 --> 01:19:57,60
modified plan with the addition of the
pavement and the signage so you know by

957
01:19:57,61 --> 01:20:02,82
Alina any further discussion Harry not all
in favor of both you know Nic thank you

958
01:20:02,90 --> 01:20:03,14
that's

959
01:20:03,15 --> 01:20:09,97
a lot of. One of the

960
01:20:09,98 --> 01:20:16,09
researchers Oh. Thank you it was time
coming through all the offsets up I'm going

961
01:20:16,10 --> 01:20:20,57
to do are you just going to
take it thank you we have

962
01:20:20,58 --> 01:20:27,42
a grant for extension provoked oil they're
asking to be extended to June sixth

963
01:20:27,97 --> 01:20:32,75
movie extended to six motion
by John second by baby.

964
01:20:34,75 --> 01:20:38,81
Discussion Yeah yes but. We did

965
01:20:38,82 --> 01:20:45,63
a cover people this I last extension I
shot I mean extensions if they requested

966
01:20:45,64 --> 01:20:46,79
that we grant as just

967
01:20:46,80 --> 01:20:51,37
a second that's our second second or third
Yes You know it's even some sort of I

968
01:20:51,38 --> 01:20:55,96
think it was in the second or the third I
think it's just the second movement of if

969
01:20:55,97 --> 01:20:56,11
it's

970
01:20:56,12 --> 01:21:01,29
a second tell that we want you know well
you never do anymore anyhow see what they

971
01:21:01,30 --> 01:21:07,24
say OK you know it's not it's good but I
think the devil knows you know I think

972
01:21:07,25 --> 01:21:08,63
that I think that there's

973
01:21:08,64 --> 01:21:12,05
a problem they get the right and then we
get our thing I think that was I'm going

974
01:21:12,06 --> 01:21:12,29
to tell

975
01:21:12,30 --> 01:21:15,52
a bigger later on that I don't think it's
well I don't I don't think i'll that I

976
01:21:15,53 --> 01:21:19,78
can see what's now it works versus It
was doing to the engineering onlookers

977
01:21:19,79 --> 01:21:26,05
Philadelphians of the place so yeah
that that wasn't something anybody was

978
01:21:26,09 --> 01:21:31,63
expecting I don't know what it was any of
that motion by John. With the discussion

979
01:21:31,64 --> 01:21:36,89
from baby that we're not that the applicant
should be informed that we're not

980
01:21:36,90 --> 01:21:42,25
extending past. That's the
third time that correct that.

981
01:21:44,45 --> 01:21:49,51
Any further discussion here or not own
favor of the motion high has cemented

982
01:21:51,64 --> 01:21:56,89
posed you know animists.
Anyone P U N E fifteen E.

983
01:21:56,90 --> 01:22:03,33
Street Please Yes So this is
possible on the street here

984
01:22:03,75 --> 01:22:10,25
OK. The applicant own this particular
piece of property here was

985
01:22:10,26 --> 01:22:16,20
sixteen thousand five hundred square
feet with. Its that's underneath there I

986
01:22:16,21 --> 01:22:22,77
believe. I want sorry. I can't find it

987
01:22:23,46 --> 01:22:25,76
so they went they went to Z. V.S.E.

988
01:22:25,77 --> 01:22:30,44
They were granted a variance
for a really minimum lot size

989
01:22:30,45 --> 01:22:36,08
a lot with an frontage requirement story
and still in the year yep it was created

990
01:22:36,46 --> 01:22:41,34
one lot of around the just thing
two story two family house in has

991
01:22:41,35 --> 01:22:47,83
a second lot with thousand square feet
with sixty four feet of frontage it's

992
01:22:47,84 --> 01:22:54,79
indorsed bless. Motion pleasure if
they had your speech and yeah it was

993
01:22:54,80 --> 01:23:00,33
a very we got to very cheap or whatever
very very very serious that's when we shut

994
01:23:00,34 --> 01:23:04,20
down they said yes and we said no we were
trying when we may but they didn't have

995
01:23:04,55 --> 01:23:06,41
the answer to expect I also have

996
01:23:06,42 --> 01:23:09,10
a check in the amount of two hundred
fifty dollars for this I make

997
01:23:09,11 --> 01:23:13,93
a motion we send most of my babe just
have Larry signed seconded by Lena any

998
01:23:13,94 --> 01:23:18,79
further discussion here or not of course
I sent you all the favor Republican

999
01:23:18,80 --> 01:23:22,12
address if you. Think so I have

1000
01:23:22,13 --> 01:23:27,33
a yeah moving right
along. We have easy V.A.

1001
01:23:28,12 --> 01:23:33,50
Thank you first for thirty four asylum St
The applicant requests that's the lever

1002
01:23:33,51 --> 01:23:35,14
to sign the applicant requests

1003
01:23:35,15 --> 01:23:40,40
a verse to reconfigure subject property the
property consists of two not performing

1004
01:23:40,41 --> 01:23:47,17
lots that are considered merged by zoning
civically the proposal is to raise the

1005
01:23:47,18 --> 01:23:48,56
existing dual and situate

1006
01:23:48,57 --> 01:23:55,31
a lot forty nine. By the property to
irregular shape plots one new single

1007
01:23:55,32 --> 01:24:00,58
family dwelling would then be built on
each of the new lots variances from what

1008
01:24:00,63 --> 01:24:07,20
area within five to ten necessary for this
proposal. Larry is recommending that the

1009
01:24:07,21 --> 01:24:10,54
board favor forward favor
both through D.B.A.

1010
01:24:11,55 --> 01:24:18,54
For concept plan number one only. And
yet concert plan never to create

1011
01:24:18,58 --> 01:24:25,14
irregularly shaped blocks again doesn't
know what we're looking for but. So what I

1012
01:24:25,15 --> 01:24:30,91
can't. Difficult time Larry if you can just
give me that what they're looking for.

1013
01:24:32,04 --> 01:24:37,45
If you look at the area you know. If you
look at when you're you know on the last

1014
01:24:37,46 --> 01:24:43,60
page that's the current configuration
and you have to know conforming lots.

1015
01:24:44,72 --> 01:24:47,75
There replanting them
so they're both still

1016
01:24:47,76 --> 01:24:52,02
a lot of warming together you still blare
eagerly connect the houses on the side of

1017
01:24:52,03 --> 01:24:58,44
them to each side of them yeah they
typically meet. Zoning as it exists.

1018
01:24:59,54 --> 01:25:05,21
Not all. But the ones basically adjacent
to look pretty close I don't know you tell

1019
01:25:05,22 --> 01:25:10,62
me what I looking for in terms
of variance but the front of.

1020
01:25:16,10 --> 01:25:20,20
It To Me is the numerator down the application
to me all the all you all so much

1021
01:25:20,21 --> 01:25:21,05
trying to do is sell

1022
01:25:21,06 --> 01:25:25,93
a single family house and subdivided it and
to make money is going to sound like I

1023
01:25:25,94 --> 01:25:30,61
mean I don't necessarily see
hardship as much as there's

1024
01:25:30,62 --> 01:25:35,06
a single family that tear it down
if it's in such need and build

1025
01:25:35,07 --> 01:25:39,74
a single family and enjoy the piece of
property as it exists I think that's my

1026
01:25:39,75 --> 01:25:44,47
opinion because it's getting late in the
day. With the pleasure of the board

1027
01:25:47,88 --> 01:25:54,63
I thought the book. Deviate favorable

1028
01:25:55,13 --> 01:25:55,98
motion by lean it's

1029
01:25:55,99 --> 01:26:02,41
a furze E.B.A.'s unfavorable to either
second on the unfavorable. And second by Joe

1030
01:26:02,42 --> 01:26:08,42
any further discussion on the unfavorable
joke yes Leno made it Joe second it. Any

1031
01:26:08,43 --> 01:26:13,25
further discussion here not all in favor
of the unfavorable post at the end

1032
01:26:13,26 --> 01:26:19,55
favorable unanimous of the
unfavorable medical right. To Life

1033
01:26:20,32 --> 01:26:26,17
Of course you know there's. Plenty
of work sorry we have easy to be

1034
01:26:26,18 --> 01:26:30,82
a special rely for twelve
Westchester Dr complicated requests

1035
01:26:30,83 --> 01:26:34,56
a special permit to construct an addition
to the existing dwelling on the subject

1036
01:26:34,57 --> 01:26:40,11
property property is not conforming as to
why the area within fronted within this

1037
01:26:40,15 --> 01:26:40,69
R.C.

1038
01:26:40,73 --> 01:26:48,37
Zoning district existing dwelling is also
not conforming as to side yard. Civically

1039
01:26:48,41 --> 01:26:49,88
the proposal was a construct

1040
01:26:49,92 --> 01:26:54,51
a twenty one point five by thirty two story
garage addition to the existing house

1041
01:26:55,27 --> 01:27:00,57
the new construction will meet all yard
setback requirements therefore Larry is

1042
01:27:00,58 --> 01:27:02,68
recommending farewell to the Z. V.A.

1043
01:27:04,74 --> 01:27:05,12
This kind of

1044
01:27:05,13 --> 01:27:10,98
a technicality since I saw basically the
zoning change in his neighborhood I move

1045
01:27:10,99 --> 01:27:12,27
that we give a favor

1046
01:27:12,28 --> 01:27:19,02
a recommendation see that this is the first
one where the construction. Meet for

1047
01:27:19,03 --> 01:27:25,06
the. Right motion by being provoked that
second seconded by John any further

1048
01:27:25,07 --> 01:27:29,64
discussion on the favorable very not all
of the favor of the paper and of the

1049
01:27:29,65 --> 01:27:34,01
favorable the right closed
unanimously favorable to the C.P.S.

1050
01:27:34,01 --> 01:27:40,48
. You're right. No that's good.

1051
01:27:42,16 --> 01:27:43,31
And finally we have

1052
01:27:43,32 --> 01:27:47,92
a special referral fifteen Lincoln
Street the applicant requested

1053
01:27:47,93 --> 01:27:49,30
a variance to maintain

1054
01:27:49,31 --> 01:27:54,66
a carport like structure on the subject
property the property consists of

1055
01:27:54,67 --> 01:27:56,11
a two family dwelling on

1056
01:27:56,12 --> 01:28:00,60
a non-performing lot the carport like
structure has been erected without

1057
01:28:00,61 --> 01:28:06,53
a building permit. The attach violation
notice there's been no site plan provided

1058
01:28:06,54 --> 01:28:10,96
with the application to indicate where
existing and proposed structures are located

1059
01:28:11,51 --> 01:28:16,61
what indicates the step back distance
from the various property lines therefore

1060
01:28:16,74 --> 01:28:23,59
there is recommending unfavorable to deviate
and are you packing Obviously you do

1061
01:28:23,77 --> 01:28:30,72
the. Department of part
of inspection and the

1062
01:28:30,73 --> 01:28:34,60
citation you know. Every pitch is

1063
01:28:34,61 --> 01:28:40,48
a right nothing. Well I really have to get
even know you had the aerial on the back

1064
01:28:40,90 --> 01:28:46,17
last week shows the aerial from R.V.'s
system which carries the service I think the

1065
01:28:46,18 --> 01:28:50,61
one that's always been the one going to be
the one that's on the corner of Lincoln

1066
01:28:50,62 --> 01:28:56,38
is. Winter here the carport there no well
no it's the that what it says he knew it

1067
01:28:56,92 --> 01:29:01,72
but the My point is that if you think
it's like that there they're trying to do

1068
01:29:01,73 --> 01:29:01,100
like

1069
01:29:02,01 --> 01:29:08,31
a patio cover of some sort off of the end
of the parking lot so I officiated says

1070
01:29:08,42 --> 01:29:10,42
Yeah yeah so it's not exactly

1071
01:29:10,43 --> 01:29:16,37
a carport although go under that I think
I think it could so without the plan and

1072
01:29:16,38 --> 01:29:22,43
knowing exactly where it's going to be
going to tell getting ten What is it. I

1073
01:29:22,44 --> 01:29:23,47
don't know I make

1074
01:29:23,48 --> 01:29:26,83
a motion ring of them favorable want
to buy them from Fable do I have

1075
01:29:26,84 --> 01:29:32,05
a second on the motion thing by laying out
any further discussion here I'm not all

1076
01:29:32,06 --> 01:29:38,70
in favor of the unfavorable I opposed to
the favorable. To the same day please any

1077
01:29:38,71 --> 01:29:45,68
other business. No The
only thing I haven't heard

1078
01:29:45,69 --> 01:29:51,24
anything about the are zoning
amendments. I just wanted to discuss

1079
01:29:52,73 --> 01:29:55,73
if somebody were to pass over somebody put

1080
01:29:55,74 --> 01:29:59,42
a motion to pass over them I
want to one I don't want to. Get

1081
01:29:59,43 --> 01:30:04,52
a feeling from this board because I'm I'm
still. I think we've indicated that's

1082
01:30:04,53 --> 01:30:11,32
over that we would fight the economy. If
that motion came. I don't know there's

1083
01:30:11,33 --> 01:30:15,43
any advantage of passing over it I believe
I believe the other issue with passing

1084
01:30:15,44 --> 01:30:17,39
it over to a certain
extent I think it does

1085
01:30:17,40 --> 01:30:20,74
a couple things one if they're going to
have an election which it seems like and

1086
01:30:20,75 --> 01:30:21,63
that's fine that they have

1087
01:30:21,64 --> 01:30:25,75
a right to do that is that tells people
where they would be if they allowed in town

1088
01:30:26,22 --> 01:30:31,06
as a matter of information to it
if it could possibly put us in

1089
01:30:31,07 --> 01:30:34,34
a bad position in the future although
there it appears that there's going to be

1090
01:30:34,35 --> 01:30:41,14
enough time before the state issues
anything that's this year. Years from

1091
01:30:41,15 --> 01:30:46,26
now somebody could ask for reelection.
And all the sudden we're faced with

1092
01:30:46,27 --> 01:30:49,96
marijuana being legal and we don't have
any time to have another town meeting in

1093
01:30:49,97 --> 01:30:53,19
which case we're behind the eight ball and
why put us in that situation when we've

1094
01:30:53,20 --> 01:30:57,23
gone through the we've gone through the
government hearing again figure out where

1095
01:30:57,24 --> 01:31:00,90
we want to do anyway so I To me it's better
to have it on the book have it on the

1096
01:31:00,91 --> 01:31:04,67
books and then if they have it fine if they
don't it's illegal in town and so be it

1097
01:31:04,68 --> 01:31:04,80
it's

1098
01:31:04,81 --> 01:31:09,85
a different regulation seems reasonable to
me. Was that my understanding at the last

1099
01:31:09,86 --> 01:31:15,06
minute that next Monday we're going to
find. That was our decision somebody maybe

1100
01:31:15,07 --> 01:31:18,80
a town meeting or the Passover I want to
ask ing I'm asking this what if somebody

1101
01:31:18,81 --> 01:31:23,18
does that that one of us can get up and say
we discussed it and said no the Plenty

1102
01:31:23,19 --> 01:31:27,09
of what it is is definitely against doing
that OK That's why I'm bringing it up now

1103
01:31:27,09 --> 01:31:34,05
. Because motioning no clear
motion from John second

1104
01:31:34,06 --> 01:31:36,52
Milan to John thank you and good night.